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   Svenne to Blah   
   Re: Daily Mail: How just one joint could   
   30 Jul 09 21:20:05   
   
   XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.drugs   
   From: tvaerskaegg@aol.com   
      
   On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:47:42 +0100, Blah  wrote:   
      
   >Svenne wrote:   
      
   >> Alcohol is the worst brain fucker up around. There are few drugs as   
   >> destructive as alcohol.   
      
   >Cites rather than rhetoric are always good.   
   >Considering MOST of the population drink and there are only a few   
   >potheads, like to see your proof of damage cause per unit of intoxicant.   
      
   The medical evidence of the massive damage that alcohol can cause is   
   overwhelming. I'm surprised you're not aware of it.   
      
   >>> I'm sure the same goes for drug use, but I don't think you'll find an   
   >>> equivalent in alcohol for the brain-frying effect alleged for some   
   >>> cannabis users. And once the brain is broke, you can't rehab it.   
   >>   
   >> You get even worse. No drug is good for you, but when it comes to pure   
   >> body and mind rotting poison, alcohol is massivly more damaging than   
   >> cannabis.   
      
   >How on earth do you work that out - have you met many read skunk users -   
   >  drinkers sober up, skunke users are always smelly and unwashed layabouts.   
      
   I've met lots of alcohol drinkers and lots of potheads and most of   
   them are pretty normal folks. But the alcohol abusers I've met have   
   always been in a much worse state that the odd eccentric cannabis   
   abuser I've met.   
      
   As far as I'm concerned alcohol is the number one head fucker up and   
   people destroyer. There aren't many drugs to touch it for that.   
      
   >>> Who said anything about banning it - I certainly haven't - I   
   >>> consistantly maintain that the "Its ok, try some, makes me happy"   
   >>> brigade should shut their faces and let newbies do or don't as they see   
   >>> fit. "Its on the table over there, do as you want"   
   >>> Why do users seem to feel the need to bang on about it? I love my   
   >>> Strongbow, but you don't get me going on about how marevelous it is,   
   >>> insisting the tax rate is reduced, try some!   
   >>   
   >>> Pushers - what a perfect word.   
   >>   
   >> So you want to ban alcohol advertising now?   
   >   
   >Where did you get that from? I want you potheads to stop banging on   
   >about the wonders of weed, when you know little about what its doing to   
   >the youth of today.   
      
   If potheads want to go on about their favourite smoke they have as   
   much right to do it as any ale or wine buff going on about their   
   favourite tipple.   
      
   >Alcohol advertising is at least restricted to promoting a particular   
   >flavour or style, rather than insisting it makes you glamorous or a babe   
   >magnet.   
      
   >Talk to any pothead and all they can say is that 'its good for you'.   
      
   Not from what I know.   
      
   >>>> You live your life and take your risks, wether it is mountain   
   >>>> climbing, drinking ale or puffing pot. Hardly anything is safe and a   
   >>>> life dedicated to all that is safe and nice ends in death anyway.   
   >>   
   >>>> Might as well live your life while you've got it.   
   >>   
   >>> And leave others to make their own mind up, rather than pushing a   
   >>> lifestyle on to them?   
   >>   
   >> And how would you go about banning alcohol advertising?   
   >   
   >You made that bit up, why don't you consider the banning of pot   
   >propoganda instead?   
      
   You're the one who doesn't like people talking about their favourite   
   tipple or smoke. I didn't make it up, you said it yourself.   
      
   I believe in free speech.   
      
   Svenne   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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