XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
XPost: alt.politics.usa
From: bliss@sfo.com
lab~rat >:-) Regurgitated the following idiocy,
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:53:32 -0700, B Sellers puked:
>
>> lab~rat >:-) wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:13:03 -0700 (PDT), Brother Nate
>>> puked:
>>>
>>>> M_P wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 10, 12:51 pm, "lab~rat >:-)" wrote:
>>>>>> Illegal to sell. Legal to grow.
>>>>> That will put a dent in criminal profits ... but they'd be wiped out
>>>>> be legalizing sale.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Legal to possess personal use.
>>>>>> Illegal for minors. Illegal to smoke in public like open containers.
>>>>>> No taxes.
>>>> I think it's really cute that anyone could imagine that
>>>> in today's fiscal climate lawmakers would consider
>>>> legalizing any drug at all without taxing it.
>>> Well we have to start from a negotiating point far from the end
>>> result. My argument is that eliminating the law enforcement and
>>> incarceration resulting from the enforcement would free up millions,
>>> perhaps billions. Taxing wouldn't be necessary and could lead to a
>>> black market since pot is just a plant that anyone could grow.
>>> --
>>> lab~rat >:-)
>>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>> We already have a black market in cannabis. Will Foster
>> is suffering in an Oklahoma prison because of the damned laws.
>> I would gladly pay taxes to keep Will Foster out of prison.
>>
>> You insult people willing to pay taxes while you are using
>> a medium paid for with taxes in development and other ways.
>> You are one of those "starve the beast" Neo-cons I'd bet, posing
>> as an anarchist. If the common needs a good such as transport
>> expect to pay for the channels it uses either piecemeal as tolls
>> or taxes. Expect as well to pay the tolls when you buy food
>> or clothing because the seller had to pay them to get it to
>> you. While it is true that cannabis can be grown nearly anywhere
>> including private closets it is a hassle and some people would
>> rather pay a cannabist who sells the stuff and makes profits
>> and who pays taxes on the profit. And one who of course makes
>> a reasonably reliable product rather than spending hundreds of
>> hours trying to force a a decent product out of non-descript
>> seeds.
>>
>> You are free to do as you please in this matter. While the
>> law as presently written is in force I do hope you will be careful
>> in your horticulture and/or acquisitions so that you do not become
>> a drain upon the publics taxes.
>>
>> And I prefer honest but polite. Sincerity used to be the banner
>> of the Shogun's enforcers in Kyoto in the 1860s as they went about
>> intimidating and killing. Sincere is the quality the politicians
>> must
>> learn to display(some in acting classes.)
>>
>> later
>> bliss
>
> After all is said and done, it's my opinion that we need less taxes
> instead of more. If you feel we need more taxes, you should lead by
> example and voluntarily double your annual tax bill. That way you can
> walk the walk instead of being a hypocritical little Robin Hood on the
> internet.
> --
> lab~rat >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
I bought something and in San Francisco in California we pay
sales taxes. It took me six months to save the money I spent on
this new computer and I doubled the taxes I pay when bought it.
Funny that it didn't cost that much but the taxes both sales and
fees really brought the prices up. But I have a decent computer
working very nicely right now. And the best thing is that I am
not paying interest on the money to the bank card I hold.
Interest payments are more deadly than taxes IMO.
I think we need to pay more taxes. We started a war
or two in the last 10 years though we worked up to it over
a long time. We forgot to raise the taxes to pay for that war
or two at the time so we should be raising the taxes on
everything that uses energy because it is a war over energy
and we didn't even get the energy they promised us.
Meantime middle class people have lost family members
to the war and we other citizens who could afford to never
were even hit in the wallet.
If we want to run an Imperial military we should be
ready to pay up to 50% taxes on ordinary income and
on higher incomes up to 90%. Take a look at WW II tax
levels and how high taxes were spent after the war to
raise the educational levels for the veterans.
It ain't a popular stance but higher taxes are better
for the USA. We eat too much and drive too much so
we need food rationing and fuel rationing for private
individuals. If we cannot have the rationing then we
need taxes so we don't have as much money to waste
on food and recreational operation of vehicles.
Fat citizens and fat-headed citizens) = weak nation.
later
bliss
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