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   From: okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com   
      
   "M_P"  wrote in message   
   news:69c11b69-53d3-4c66-a560-6778978194e6@l35g2000vba.googlegroups.com...   
   On Sep 16, 7:55 pm, "Jerry Okamura"  wrote:   
   > "M_P"  wrote in message   
   > news:a9b74f3f-2c77-4f60-86bb-7beddb4e0b00@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...   
   > > On Sep 15, 6:53 pm, "Jerry Okamura"  wrote:   
   > > > "M_P"  wrote in message   
   > > >news:90d94761-cf0a-4e8b-8f13-00acd4d6ed06@d21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...   
   > > >> On Sep 15, 11:56 am, "Jerry Okamura"    
   > > >> wrote:   
   >   
   > > >> > I am generally in favor of legalizing what are now illegal drugs.   
   > > >> > But   
   > > >> > before we do that, if we ever do that, I would like to spend the   
   > > >> > time   
   > > >> > to   
   > > >> > learn all of the advantages and disadvantages, before making a   
   > > >> > final   
   > > >> > decision.   
   > >   
   > > >> What possible disadvantages do you think the quoted article missed?   
   > >   
   > > > Will the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.   
   > >   
   > > As the text you've deleted persuasively argues, the "disadvantages"   
   > > are largely illusory.   
   >   
   > Is that so? Well, let me see. If you legalize the use of drugs, then more   
   > people will use drugs.   
      
   The available evidence is against you; to repeat: "In the UK, as in   
   many countries, the real clampdown on drugs started in the late 1960s,   
   yet government statistics show that the number of heroin or cocaine   
   addicts seen by the health service has grown ever since [...] look at   
   whether fewer people use drugs in countries with stricter drug laws.   
   In 2008, the World Health Organization looked at 17 countries and   
   found no such correlation. [...] While dealing remains illegal in   
   Portugal, personal use of all drugs has been decriminalised. The   
   result? Drug use has stayed roughly constant"   
      
   Which is not relevant to what I said.   
      
   > We already know what happens with alcohol and   
   > tobacco,   
      
   Who's "we" - you and the mouse in your pocket? What is it you think   
   "happens with alcohol and tobacco" - and what is your evidence for so   
   thinking?   
      
   My evidence is simple.  Is there no one drinking alcohol or smoking a   
   cigarette?   
      
   > so why do you think it would not happen with drugs?   
      
   I don't.  If drugs are legal, I would suspect more people will use these   
   drugs, which was my point.   
      
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