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   From: okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com   
      
   "M_P"  wrote in message   
   news:b9b151b4-43f9-476d-adee-720c0071f79a@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...   
   On Sep 17, 12:52 pm, "Jerry Okamura"    
   wrote:   
   > "M_P"  wrote in message   
   > news:728a6a17-6b96-4c4a-8075-8ac1f4952ee3@d21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...   
   > > On Sep 16, 6:18 pm, "Jerry Okamura"  wrote:   
   > > > "M_P"  wrote in message   
   > > >news:a9b74f3f-2c77-4f60-86bb-7beddb4e0b00@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...   
   > > > > On Sep 15, 6:53 pm, "Jerry Okamura"    
   > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > "M_P"  wrote in message   
   > > > > >news:90d94761-cf0a-4e8b-8f13-00acd4d6ed06@d21g2000vbm.g   
   oglegroups.com...   
   > > > > >> On Sep 15, 11:56 am, "Jerry Okamura"    
   > > > > >> wrote:   
   >   
   > > > > >> > I am generally in favor of legalizing what are now illegal   
   > > > > >> > drugs.   
   > > > > >> > But   
   > > > > >> > before we do that, if we ever do that, I would like to spend   
   > > > > >> > the   
   > > > > >> > time   
   > > > > >> > to   
   > > > > >> > learn all of the advantages and disadvantages, before making a   
   > > > > >> > final   
   > > > > >> > decision.   
   > >   
   > > > > >> What possible disadvantages do you think the quoted article   
   > > > > >> missed?   
   > >   
   > > > > > Will the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.   
   > >   
   > > > > As the text you've deleted persuasively argues, the "disadvantages"   
   > > > > are largely illusory.   
   > >   
   > > > No it did not. One statement was that the Bristish effort to crack   
   > > > down on   
   > > > illegal drug use ws did not work because the number of users went up.   
   > > > Well,   
   > > > I could argue that whatever they did to "crack down" was not severe   
   > > > enough,   
   > > > and that is why the number of users went up.   
   > >   
   > > You could argue that if you had any evidence for it. And then we'd   
   > > have left behind your original question, about the advantages and   
   > > disadvantages of the status quo versus legalization, and started on a   
   > > discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of some hypothetical   
   > > severe crackdown ... at which point I'd note that since even Iran and   
   > > China have drug problems, no free society will ever eliminate them.   
   >   
   > No society can stop peole from doing what they want to do. That is why you   
   > will always have a drug problem, you will always have someone drinking   
   > alcohol, you will always have someone committing crimes.   
      
   But only the last one has an unwilling victim ... so let's direct our   
   finite resources at protecting them rather than a futile "sever   
   crackdown" to save people from themselves.   
      
   Drug users need money to continue using drugs.  If they do not have the   
   money to buy the drugs, some of them will steal to get the money.  People   
   who drive while having too much alcohol are more likely to get into an auto   
   accident, and do kill someone else, when they do that.   
      
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