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From: okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com
"M_P" wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 6:25 pm, "Jerry Okamura" wrote:
> "M_P" wrote in message
> news:b9b151b4-43f9-476d-adee-720c0071f79a@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 17, 12:52 pm, "Jerry Okamura"
> > wrote:
> > > "M_P" wrote in message
> > >news:728a6a17-6b96-4c4a-8075-8ac1f4952ee3@d21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Sep 16, 6:18 pm, "Jerry Okamura"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > "M_P" wrote in message
> > > > >news:a9b74f3f-2c77-4f60-86bb-7beddb4e0b00@31g2000vbf.go
glegroups.com...
> > > > > > On Sep 15, 6:53 pm, "Jerry Okamura"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > "M_P" wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:90d94761-cf0a-4e8b-8f13-00acd4d6ed06@d21g2000v
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> > > > > > >> On Sep 15, 11:56 am, "Jerry Okamura"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > I am generally in favor of legalizing what are now illegal
> > > > > > >> > drugs.
> > > > > > >> > But
> > > > > > >> > before we do that, if we ever do that, I would like to
> > > > > > >> > spend
> > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > time
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > learn all of the advantages and disadvantages, before
> > > > > > >> > making a
> > > > > > >> > final
> > > > > > >> > decision.
> >
> > > > > > >> What possible disadvantages do you think the quoted article
> > > > > > >> missed?
> >
> > > > > > > Will the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
> >
> > > > > > As the text you've deleted persuasively argues, the
> > > > > > "disadvantages"
> > > > > > are largely illusory.
> >
> > > > > No it did not. One statement was that the Bristish effort to crack
> > > > > down on
> > > > > illegal drug use ws did not work because the number of users went
> > > > > up.
> > > > > Well,
> > > > > I could argue that whatever they did to "crack down" was not
> > > > > severe
> > > > > enough,
> > > > > and that is why the number of users went up.
> >
> > > > You could argue that if you had any evidence for it. And then we'd
> > > > have left behind your original question, about the advantages and
> > > > disadvantages of the status quo versus legalization, and started on
> > > > a
> > > > discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of some hypothetical
> > > > severe crackdown ... at which point I'd note that since even Iran
> > > > and
> > > > China have drug problems, no free society will ever eliminate them.
> >
> > > No society can stop peole from doing what they want to do. That is why
> > > you
> > > will always have a drug problem, you will always have someone drinking
> > > alcohol, you will always have someone committing crimes.
> >
> > But only the last one has an unwilling victim ... so let's direct our
> > finite resources at protecting them rather than a futile "sever
> > crackdown" to save people from themselves.
>
> Drug users need money to continue using drugs. If they do not have the
> money to buy the drugs, some
"If". "Some". It's immoral to punish ALL drug users for what SOME
users MIGHT do … which is why DUI doesn’t justify a new Prohibition.
But that is not what I was responding to.
> of them will steal to get the money.
Legalization would lessen that problem by lowering the cost of drugs.
Yes it would significantly if not totally achieve that goal.
> People
> who drive while having too much alcohol are more likely to get into an
> auto
> accident, and do kill someone else, when they do that.
So do you support a ban on alcohol?
I do not generally support trying to stop people from doing what they want
to do, unless they are hurting other people by doing what they do.
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