XPost: alt.activism.drug-war, alt.drugs.psychedelics
From: bliss@sfo.com
On 07/05/2010 12:45 AM, Joel wrote:
> Brother Nate wrote:
>
>> For all too many of the drugs that have been banned, there's
>> been a history of misuse and abuse, and drug policy.
>> reformers can't escape that history any more than Christians
>> can escape the Spanish Inquisition.
Lots of Christians escaped the Spanish Inquisition especially
if they didn't have property the church wanted.
And their are many schools of Christianity which is what the
Inquisotion was attempting to suppress but it didn't work any better
for the SI than the War On some Drugs users has stopped people
from using drugs or the Prohbition on Alcohol got people to sober up.
>
>
> So, Europeans would have called their crusades, in various other parts
> of the world, something other than "Christian". Still would've
> happened. Jesus helped on the whole - make no mistake.
Jesus helped but he didn't help the Crusaders whose record
of blood shed included lots of Christian of the non-Roman variety.
He didn't even help the Knights of the Temple when they were
driven out by the Saracens and betrayed by the Pope and King
of France when they got so rich they were seen by the eyes of
greed and envy.
>
>
>> A shortage of people
>> promoting responsible behavior is an obstacle to government
>> stepping back and saying it's ok for adults to smoke pot - I
>> know I cringe when I see people post here that it's no big
>> deal if teens smoke it.
>
>
> Some teens can handle cannabis. Some adults cannot. I think it
> should be age-restricted to 18+ for sales, but there's no reason to
> completely avoid it at a somewhat younger age (if one is so inclined,
> and it doesn't interfere with their family/school life).
Well family and school life should not interfere with drug use
so I am willing to grant that drug use should return the favor but it
is best to be sober through High School and people who are not sober
in school are likely having problems of one kind or another at home.
The kind of trouble I had at home was only resolved by leaving at the
end of High School. But leaving home only took care of the problems
I had at home. I didn't drink alcohol until I was an adult nor did
I ever get dependent on tobacco. I was thirty before I began to meet
many drug users and then they were the idealistic acid heads of
San Francisco.
The T. Monkey paints all Christians as a monolithic group and they
are actually intensely divided over many matters. Most organized
religions support the patriarchal family and demand freedom for
unrestricted reproduction since the founders were ignorant and
innumerate past counting tithes received. This is the most dangerous
part of religionk that failure to apply a bit of numerical projection
to population growth and food supplies, all for the increase in
devotion that more bodies is alleged to bring. Given time they
would destroy humanity. But religion is the opiate of the people
when they cannot step into their local pharmacy or grow their
opiates. et al in their back yards. Drugged and comfortable people
find it easier to accept otherwise unbelievable religious tenets
The secular bureaucrats are the basis of the present drug war
as well as ignorance on the part of legislative bodies. Their war
on drugs, as did the war on alcohol presents a drama of villains
and dupes but the duped are really the taxpayers supporting a chain
of special LEOs (the real villians) and all the cost of imprisoning
the other drug using populace whom the villains can entrap into
their drug distribution schemes.
Don't let the Monkey get you down Nate, he seems an ignorant
attention seeker. And the Dalai Lama is a theocrat and why does
any American want to help put a theocrat back in charge of any
nation except one in exile?
Thank you very much...
later
bliss
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