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   From: coolguy2424@live.com   
      
   The Death Penalty is about Killing the Killer.   
      
   The Death Penalty is about Murdering the Murderer.   
      
   Just saying.   
      
   Trying to kill death.   
      
   Trying to murder murder.   
      
   Is that not what all anger *is* to a lesser degree?  But an attempt to stop   
   the violent with violence?   
      
   And are not all punishment and vengeance and accusations of guilt, the   
   *result* of _anger_?   
      
   :{  ANGER  :{   
      
   a better solution for the individual than sadness or guilt, or fear, except   
   in the results of its expression.   
      
   No Sadness & No Guilt & No Fear & No Anger  = Forgiveness.   
      
   No one deserves punishment.  Those who have not victimized others   
   bodies and properties deserve it even less =)   
      
   Everyone deserves freedom from injustice.   
      
   Victims deserve recompenses.   
      
   But what do you gain out of vengeance?   
      
   What do you get out of purchasing punishment?   
      
   Military activities must have an objective.  You have a right to fight for   
   freedom and self defense.   
      
   But objectives can be achieved peacefully or violently.  Freedom and perhaps   
   even self defense can sometimes be achieved peacefully.  So the most   
   advantageous strategy must be pursued giving weight to humanity if   
   strategies are equal, i.e. choosing of peacefully achieving an objective if   
   possible.   
      
   Some stupid law enforcement may think they convince people of opinion   
   through violence, but that's not any intelligent person's position.  It may   
   be some stupid people's position.   
      
   If people believe might makes them right, then I suppose they could be   
   convinced they were not right when violence is used against them.  Perhaps   
   this would be called "Justice," so that their lie does not otherwise   
   persist, but most crimes today do not involve people claiming to be right   
   because of their power.  A relatively few probably do.   
      
   so do I have any point   
      
      
   It's okay to get angry so long as you can manage your anger.  If you can't,   
   you need anger management.  Just like some girls can turn their tears on and   
   off angry people need to be able to turn anger on and off.   Tears and anger   
   are both expressions of someone who is upset.  It's not good to suppress   
   your upset.  But it is good to be in control of it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)