XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, soc.culture.usa   
   From: bliss@mouse-potato.com   
      
   On 03/05/2017 10:48 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:   
   > On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 21:03:04 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 03/05/2017 01:34 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 02:12:01 -0800 (PST), john simmons   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >> 	   
   >> 	Christian are brought up that way with Christianity or any other   
   >> religion imposed over their inborn tendencies.  Denial of sexual   
   >> preference leads to all sorts of problems.  Masochism, sadism, and the   
   >> like.  As when a river is damned and eventually the current finds   
   >> its way out.   
   >> 	Some people have strong sexual proclivities and even various   
   >> painful therapies cannot change what is inborn and pressure keeps   
   >> building until the way out is found.  People with weaker desires   
   >> may be able to live in an abstinent fashion. be monogamous or be   
   >> happy with vows of chastity in the RC priesthood but too many idealist   
   >> young people think that Christianity with its anti-sex views is   
   >> essential to Salvation before they have any idea of what we need   
   >> to be saved from which is primarily ignorance of reality   
   >> 	Sexual denial can lead to depression and acting out violently.   
   >> I cannot prove it but there is or at least was when I was young 75 years   
   >> ago to 50 years ago a class of men who may or may not be bisexual but   
   >> who sought out and engaged in bar brawls to satisfy their needs for   
   >> contact with other men.   I had occasion in USN ERs to repair their   
   >> minor wounds with anesthetic, needle and suture.   
   >>   
   >> 	I knew of one bisexual gay man who was a hairdresser but to   
   >> stay with his wife and family he became a heroin addict which is   
   >> well-known for quelling sexual desires.  It may well be that many   
   >> addicts these days are trying to escape sexual desire which frightens   
   >> and perhaps disgust them as they are trying to live within the   
   >> limits of Christian sexuality.   
   >   
   >   
   >    I've never quite understood why most religions   
   >    assert that the path to godliness is to be as   
   >    unhuman as possible.   
      
   	Because they fear the opposite the reversion of human to   
   animalistic, or actually sociopathic behavior.  Of course some   
   of the most successful of our elites have been sociopaths but   
   in ways that were not invented when the holy books of lies were   
   composed.   
   	The structure of monogamy forbids promiscuity except in   
   a few religions where certain holy days over-turned the rules.   
   	In areas where promiscuity was endorsed by the social   
   order it led to widespread sexually transmitted illnesses so   
   the anciently founded religions had the chance to observe this.   
   Since the main big survivors of the early period turned into   
   dogmatic religions bent on taking over the world and so entreat   
   their followers to reproduce as much as possible so that their   
   armies are resupplied with rock/spear/arrow/sword/cannon fodder.   
   	   
   >   
   >    Actually, most of their gods are VERY "human",   
   >    "Human+" in truth. All the ego and want and   
   >    desire times ten ...........   
   >   
   	Aside from the very jealous deities followed by the big three religions   
   who are more like jealous apes with super powers.   
      
   	But once the governmental powers the West assigns to   
   to secular institutions are taken from under the purview of   
   the organized religions it is possibly that some good is done   
   by those religions.  We can see that on specific occasions   
   that religion can organize relief from its strictures or even   
   natural disaster.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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