XPost: ca.politics, alt.politics.usa, talk.politics.misc
XPost: alt.activism.drug-war
From: bliss@mouse-potato.com
On 10/17/18 2:20 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:37:43 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/16/18 6:39 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:33:54 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/16/18 2:46 PM, Drugs Are A Human Right wrote:
>>>>> We shouldn't have to market marijuana as recreation, to make it legal to
>>>>> use it as recreation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marijuana should be marketed like Advil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Condemn Congress until they change this problem.
>>>>
>>>> You have that right. Aspirin, acetaminophen, booze
>>>> are more dangerous and so is water in the wrong place and
>>>> quantity. We still sell all those deadly OTC drugs in
>>>> quantities that can be used for self-harm. And if you
>>>> went by quantity to kill we would need to sell cannabis
>>>> in hay bale-sized amounts.
>>>
>>> Careful now laddie ... too much weed makes Jack
>>> a dull boy - just like too much booze or too many
>>> pills. At least the booze wears off pretty quick ... it
>>> takes months to get the THC out and the brain
>>> cells working properly again. Been there, know that.
>>
>> Talking from your own experience again, Mr.Black?
>> Other folks have different experiences based on their
>> personal physiology. My brain cells work well between my
>> medicinal doses of approximately 10 mg THC at bedtime
>
> And the most common phrase uttered by drunks
> pulled over for driving all over the road is "I only
> had a couple ...".
>
> In short, stoned people are in no position to judge
> their own responses to being stoned.
>
>> Oh by the way I am an 81 year old former nurse
>> not a laddie but a mean old lady.
>
>
> Mean indeed ... but I'm also glad you're a FORMER
> nurse.
>
> "Hmm ... now did I give him his insulin or not ....." :-)
Sorry to say I was not using when i worked.
As for my memory the way proper nursing is done is to record every
medication administered. You don't guess, you check labels
3X to make sure you have the right medication and you check the
medication orders to make sure you are giving the prescribed doses.
>
>
>>> So make it AVAILABLE ... but it's probably best not
>>> to promote it.
>>>
>>> But hey, the way the left has become born-again
>>> puritans, it'll likely try to prohibit *everything*, for
>>> our own good of course ............
>>>
>> The Left is not monolithic but some of the Left in
>> positions of power have been the ones to raise the taxes when
>> recreational cannabis was legalized.
>
> Most everybody worships Mammon above all
> other gawds ......
Edifice Complex?
>
> But I was talking about the recent "#MeToo" and
> Kavanaugh related hyper-puritanism. When looking
> for dirt on opponents the Dems sure as hell sound
> like screaming finger-pointing blue-nosed puritan
> witch-hunters these days, harping on every hint of
> sinful hedonism anybody (except themselves) MAY
> have ever indulged.
That is hardly hyper-Puritanism but a fresh
recognition of the pervasiveness of patriarchal victim
blaming.
>
> It's really disturbing to hear people who still call themselves
> "liberal" talking like this. They'd better start wearing the hat
> with the buckle so we can spot them in public places. At
> this point the "conservatives" are actually far more "liberal"
> and tolerant.
There is old school liberal and progressive Feminism.
If it was you or your son being sexually abused you
would figure our what they are talking about a lot faster.
>
>> It was the left of the streets(especially Castro Street
>> who got medical cannabis legalized and the left of the working
>> class who got recreational cannabis legalized.
>> It is the left or progressive Democrats in California
>> and in San Francisco who are the forward thinking activists
>> who are called on to volunteer when things need to be done.
>
> And it'll be the left that re-criminalizes as soon as possible
> if it gains ultimate power. No "alternative" states of mind
> for the proles - makes 'em hard to brainwash and manage !
Ultimate Power? What a curious comic book phrase. In
the USA we are supposed to have checks and balances between the
branches of government. Ultimate power in the US system resides
in the citizenry.
Pure reactionary conjecture. That is what the right would
do if it has the chance else why are they trying to stack the court
with anti-women activists such as Kavanaugh. They would like to
take control of every fertile uterus. The right keeps on trying
to regulate the sex lives of citizens but forgives male sexual
aggression with the sorry refrain of "Boys will be Boys".
Trump himself wants to keep cannabis illegal using the
same DEA propaganda spewed for the last 80 years.
The right prefers to believe that desire is uncontrollable
and that its expression in sexual aggression against women is
uncontrollable. Otherwise we would sterilize and castrate
rapists to get rid of the uncontrollable elements in our
gene pool. They prefer the myth of male desire being uncontrollable
which gives them the excuse for the sexual aggression in which
they themselves have indulged.
>
> Never confuse political motivations with "humanitarian"
> motivations. Legalization serves the left NOW, but the
> instant it doesn't they'll lump weed into the whole "opioid
> epidemic" crusade just like they have nicotine.
You omit the death toll from nicotine use and abuse.
Current Opioid Crisis arises from the mis-Prescription of
opioid pain killers by licensed physicians and the sales by
"ethical" pharmaceutical producers of great numbers of doses
to places that had no use for so much.
>
> In any case, I really don't care if you chew yer THC
> gummies (ok, at your age it may be "gum yer THC
> chewies" :-) or not. I'm not a prohibitionist, not a puritan,
> more a small-L libertarian. My interest here is practical.
I still have teeth enough for steak.
>
> Mind-altering substances should never be advertised
> as "safe". It's amazing human brains work at all, so
> "alterations" to that delicate balance are gonna have
> crappy side-effects, possibly cumulative effects.
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