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   From: bliss@mouse-potato.com   
      
   On 3/11/21 3:40 PM, Don Kresch wrote:   
   > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:04:28 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >  scrawled in blood:   
   >   
   >> On 3/11/21 5:03 AM, Don Kresch wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:53:32 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >>>  scrawled in blood:   
   >>>   
   >>>> 	If anti-vaxxers die it may not be sad but families will cry   
   >>>> mothers,sisters, wives and daughters weep while male relatives will try   
   >>>> to keep a stiff uppper lip and avoid the tears. Even if you are a   
   >>>> hopeless person someone will be affected by your death.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 	Choose life and get vaccinated against the killer dieases.   
   >>>   
   >>> 	You mean a disease with a 99.96% survival rate?   
   >>>   
   >>> 	Doesn't sound like a very "killer" disease to me. Certainly   
   >>> not on the level of ebola.   
   >>>   
   >>> Don   
   >>> aa#51   
   >>> o- DNRC   
   >>> Jedi Slackmaster   
   >>>   
   >>         Well survival numbers vary widely depending on age and initial   
   >> conditions of the Individual.  It also depends on wealth and access to   
   >> truly modern medical treatment.   523,000 dead people,   
   >   
   > 	Of which, ACCORDING TO THE CDC SO THERE'S NO WHINING ABOUT   
   > FAKE NEWS, only 6% actually died from it. The other 94% had an average   
   > of 2.7 other contributing factors. Which means: about 31k actually   
   > from the virus. Which, IIRC, is slightly less than what the flu kills   
   > every year. So: yeah. Just not impressed.   
   >   
   > 	Also consider that there would be fewer deaths had places like   
   > New York not *mandated* that old folks homes take covid patients.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >> 	Also anti-vaxxers tend to keep their children from getting vaccinations   
   >> against things like Diptheria, which used to kill lots of   
   >> children,  They depend on Pro-vaxxers and the herd immunity that they   
   >> develop to keep their children well.   
   >   
   > 	Herd immunity can happen in other ways.   
   >   
   > Don   
   > aa#51   
   > o- DNRC   
   > Jedi Slackmaster   
   >   
      
      
   	My ancestors survived the black death in Europe.   
   	I may have inherited some immunity but I do not play with ground   
   squirrels in California.  You are free to move into the distant   
   countryside and try to develop herd immunity to all sorts of illnesses.   
   But it will be hard on the children. Some number of my mother's sisters   
   and brothers died of the Influenza around 1916.   
      
           She survived fortunately for me. Otherwise 1937 would contain one   
   less birthday. So did her older sister.  I was sheltered in my youth and   
   sick a lot of the time.  That was the time of the Polio epidemic before   
   the polio vaccine.  It might not kill you but some of my HS friends had   
   survived to be lame the rest of their lives.   
      
   	In the 1950s I was lucky enough to get the Hong Kong Flu as   
   it was named by the newspapers.  Later on we would have more varieties   
   of influenza with a fresh version due every year thanks to the sloppy   
   duck tending of Asian livestock tenders.   
      
   	Then we had the HIV-AIDs which decimated my list of friends and   
   wiped out the survivors' lists of friends.  People who ignored medical   
   precautions and played like it was 20 years earlier young and old died.   
      
   	So now we have Covid-19 and a large percentage of the population   
   refuses to follow medically advised precautions and further refuses to   
   take the vaccines.  Big bunch of sissies afraid of needles.  If they   
   hold tight to these attitudes pretty soon their will be no Republican   
   voters.   
      
      
   	bliss   
      
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