XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.usa.misc, misc.education.medical
XPost: talk.politics.medicine
From: noway@nospam.com
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:51:44 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
scrawled in blood:
>On 3/12/21 5:02 AM, Don Kresch wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:26:31 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
> > scrawled in blood:
> >
> >> On 3/11/21 3:40 PM, Don Kresch wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:04:28 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
> >>> scrawled in blood:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/11/21 5:03 AM, Don Kresch wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:53:32 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
> >>>>> scrawled in blood:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If anti-vaxxers die it may not be sad but families will cry
> >>>>>> mothers,sisters, wives and daughters weep while male relatives
>will try
> >>>>>> to keep a stiff uppper lip and avoid the tears. Even if you are a
> >>>>>> hopeless person someone will be affected by your death.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Choose life and get vaccinated against the killer dieases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You mean a disease with a 99.96% survival rate?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Doesn't sound like a very "killer" disease to me. Certainly
> >>>>> not on the level of ebola.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don
> >>>>> aa#51
> >>>>> o- DNRC
> >>>>> Jedi Slackmaster
> >>>>>
> >>>> Well survival numbers vary widely depending on age and
>initial
> >>>> conditions of the Individual. It also depends on wealth and access to
> >>>> truly modern medical treatment. 523,000 dead people,
>
> Now at 530,000 and climbing.
31,800.
>
> >>>
> >>> Of which, ACCORDING TO THE CDC SO THERE'S NO WHINING ABOUT
> >>> FAKE NEWS, only 6% actually died from it. The other 94% had an average
> >>> of 2.7 other contributing factors. Which means: about 31k actually
> >>> from the virus. Which, IIRC, is slightly less than what the flu kills
> >>> every year. So: yeah. Just not impressed.
>
> Well you can mess with the figures
I'm not; math is a priori.
> but plenty of those
>with contributing conditions might Not have died if they had no
>gotten sick with Covid-19.
Most of them were dying anyway.
>
> >>>
> >>> Also consider that there would be fewer deaths had places like
> >>> New York not *mandated* that old folks homes take covid patients.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Also anti-vaxxers tend to keep their children from getting
>vaccinations
> >>>> against things like Diptheria, which used to kill lots of
> >>>> children, They depend on Pro-vaxxers and the herd immunity that they
> >>>> develop to keep their children well.
> >>>
> >>> Herd immunity can happen in other ways.
> >>>
> >>> Don
> >>> aa#51
> >>> o- DNRC
> >>> Jedi Slackmaster
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> My ancestors survived the black death in Europe.
> >> I may have inherited some immunity but I do not play with ground
> >> squirrels in California. You are free to move into the distant
> >> countryside and try to develop herd immunity to all sorts of illnesses.
> >> But it will be hard on the children. Some number of my mother's sisters
> >> and brothers died of the Influenza around 1916.
> >
> > Are you looking for pity?
>
> Not at all. These things did not happen to me.
>I never knew those aunts and uncles at all and my mom was
>still quite young, an infant so she never knew them.
Then what's your point?
>
> >>
> >> She survived fortunately for me. Otherwise 1937 would
>contain one
> >> less birthday. So did her older sister. I was sheltered in my youth and
> >> sick a lot of the time. That was the time of the Polio epidemic before
> >> the polio vaccine. It might not kill you but some of my HS friends had
> >> survived to be lame the rest of their lives.
> >
> > Shame.
>
> For them it is or was.
> >
> >>
> >> In the 1950s I was lucky enough to get the Hong Kong Flu as
> >> it was named by the newspapers. Later on we would have more varieties
> >> of influenza with a fresh version due every year thanks to the sloppy
> >> duck tending of Asian livestock tenders.
> >
> > Amazing how there was no lockdown, and people survived.
>
> Yes because they had no idea what they were dealing with to start with.
And yet my point stands.
> Hong Kong was not so bad and I was young then and
>had incredible recuperative powers.
As do most people.
>
> >>
> >> Then we had the HIV-AIDs which decimated my list of friends and
> >> wiped out the survivors' lists of friends. People who ignored medical
> >> precautions and played like it was 20 years earlier, young and old died.
> >
> > And there was still no lockdown.
>
> Sure there was but unless you were paying close attention
No, there wasn't; I was alive then. There wasn't.
>you missed it. It closed gay bath houses and other places for
>assignations and anonymous sex.
Yeah, that's not a lockdown.
> >> So now we have Covid-19 and a large percentage of the population
> >> refuses to follow medically advised precautions and further refuses to
> >> take the vaccines. Big bunch of sissies afraid of needles. If they
> >> hold tight to these attitudes pretty soon their will be no Republican
> >> voters.
> >
> > And there we have it: partisan bullshit.
> >
> > You're part of the problem.
>
> Which problem is that?
Partisan hackery. You fucking statists are so stupid as to
think the problem is with "the other party".
The problem is partisan bullshit.
Don
aa#51
o- DNRC
Jedi Slackmaster
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