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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, sac.politics       XPost: talk.politics.guns       From: jail.democrat@parents.too              What’s happening       The first parents in the U.S. to be convicted in a mass shooting caused by       their child were each sentenced to at least 10 years in prison this week.       In separate trials, Jennifer and James Crumbley were convicted of       involuntary manslaughter for failing to prevent their teenage son Ethan       from killing four students at a Michigan high school in 2021.              The prosecution accused the Crumbleys of not securing a newly purchased       gun in their home and failing to act on warning signs that their son’s       mental health was deteriorating.              Meanwhile, the defense had argued at a pretrial hearing that holding the       Crumbleys criminally responsible for their son’s mass shooting would kick       the door wide open to holding parents accountable for any number of       behaviors.              “If I have a child that goes and has sex with an underage girl, do I as       the parent then become liable for criminal sexual conduct because my child       used the cellphone I technically own, drove the car I technically own, and       I knew my son had an affinity to like girls?” defense attorney Shannon       Smith argued during a 2023 pretrial hearing.              Just before sentencing the Crumbleys on Tuesday, Oakland County Judge       Cheryl Matthews said, “These convictions are not about poor parenting.       These convictions confirm repeated acts — or lack of acts — that could       have halted an oncoming runaway train.”              The Crumbley convictions have once again ignited conversations surrounding       the criminal liability parents should assume when it comes to their       child’s actions and behavior. When it comes to parental responsibility       laws, they are typically broken down into two types: civil and criminal.              Parental civil liability laws have been on the books since at least 1846,       when Hawaii passed a law that essentially holds parents financially       responsible for the actions of their minor children. All states have a       version of this law that varies from intentional acts to accidents caused       by children.              When it comes to parental criminal liability, laws have been on the books       since 1899, when Colorado officials established a law that made       “contributing to the delinquency of a minor” a crime. The purpose of these       laws was to protect children from a parent or adult engaging them in       illegal activities, like delivering drugs. Most states designate this as a       misdemeanor offense, typically punishable by a fine and/or jail time from       six months to a year.              Why there’s debate       Proponents of holding parents criminally liable for more serious offenses,       like a school shooting, believe that punishing parents could serve as a       deterrent and a warning about safely securing guns.              Gun control advocates like Nick Suplina, senior vice president for law and       policy at Everytown for Gun Safety, argue that convictions and punishments       — like in the case of the Crumbleys — have previously resulted in laws and       parental awareness about matters of safety.              “There was a time where a parent might not really think about the       unsupervised party at their home that serves alcohol to minors until there       is a prosecution of parents for that party when a teenager is injured in a       drunk driving accident, right?” Suplina told WBUR’s On Point. “That is now       a known thing among parents of adolescents, of the risk of having a party       like that.” Suplina noted that laws have been implemented requiring gates       around pools to stop a wandering child from drowning.              However, on the other end of the parental criminal liability spectrum,       opponents argue that low-income people and minorities could be       disproportionately affected. Take, for example, California’s controversial       truancy law championed by then state Attorney General Kamala Harris, which       carries misdemeanor penalties for parents whose children regularly missed       school.?              Cheree Peoples, a Black mother in California, was charged with a criminal       misdemeanor under California’s truancy law in 2013 because her 11-year-old       daughter, who has sickle cell anemia, missed too much school. Peoples was       in contact with school officials to work out a specific learning plan       designed for children with disabilities. Despite this, police officers       showed up at her house, handcuffed her and booked her, before she was       released later that day.              What’s next              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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