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XPost: alt.health
From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com
On 7/30/25 22:38, c186282 wrote:
> https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-07-young-adults-high-strength-
> cannabis.html
>
> Study shows young adults who use high strength cannabis do
> not 'titrate' to less risky levels of use
Don't they fall asleep when they do too much?
The stronger the medication the less of it they have to use.
What is risky when they have used cannabis to lower their
levels of understanding of risk?
The culture teaches that overuse is normal use as we see in the
reports of death from alcohol ingestion in fraternal initiations. We see
College age student attempting to get totally wasted and succeeding
with the use of large amount of alcoholic beverages. Then they boast
about their capacity for self injury.
>
> . . .
>
> Hmmm ... remember that Acapulco Gold from the good
> old days ? That stuff wasn't even five percent as
> strong as what everybody is taking now. It's like
> going from wine to EverClear 190 proof.
Baloney! Here in SF where we have legal cannabis dispensaries
the percentage of the active ingredient is generally advertised in the
onllne menus. It is sold with percentages in smoking material from
about 20% up to over 50% in hash or oil for vaporizing. From
prior smoking I can neither smoke nor vaporize and I have friends
who have allergic reactions to cannabis and will never use it.
Acapulco Gold was at 24% THC. I generally used Columbian and
grew it from the included seeds.
Thai Stick which I am not sure if I ever really had was up to 24%
THC. It was pure Sativa grown by tribal folk in Thailand.
I was not sure because the product was copied with the domestic
product to get the higher price.
For oral products which are all I use these days the standard
dose is 5 mg. to 10 mg. but of course you can use multiple doses
at the same time. It can get expensive that way, especially as
special taxes are imposed above and beyond the sales tax which
is 8.5% in San Francisco. Curiously enough in the classic 19th
Century Report on Indian Hemp the conclusion was that no
tax should be imposed as it would force the product out of
the hands of the poor people who were the majority of users.
Report of the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission, 1893-1894
by India. Hemp Drugs Commission
Fortunately cannabis is more or less a local product so
Trump may not attempt to impose tariffs on it.
>
> As such, the health equation is DIFFERENT.
For people with allergic reactions to THC or who are
pre-psychotic that may be the case. Also at risk are people
with addictive personality conditions. They can get addicted
to a great many things including water to the point of
intoxication.
>
> Do note that some of this stuff is kinda 'political',
> with neo-Puritans insisting that it's all awful and
> hyper-addictive and makes yer kiddies insane.
>
> More likely the kiddies are insane because of
> 'Woke' psychological initiatives and psycho-social
> confusion and CRAP parenting .......
Woke has nothing to due with it and most are socially
unconscious. To attack cannabis is silly. Most cannabis users
are saner than myself and employed at modern wages.
I am 88 yoa and met my first Opiate user, a veteran of WW II
who was medically addicted and was a very cool sort
of person, married to one of the waitresses employed by
my parents in the 1950s.He never proselytized for
morphine sulphate. I might have been 14 yoa and he was
entrusted to drive me to pick up some food product.
He was a more careful driver than my step-father but
they did not give him the money to pay for the meat we
were buying.
>
> In any case, there is some truth here - if you
> are used to the hard stuff you probably won't
> switch back to wine, per-se.
Well unless it gives you very negative results like sexual
impotency and loss of desire which are common with drugs
both stimulant and opiate. Also the risk of jail or prison.
>
> People LOVE a buzz ... came across another article
> today showing betel-nut residue on 4000 year old
> teeth. 'Normal' just seems to SUCK for most.
>
> https://phys.org/news/2025-07-year-teeth-earliest-people-psychoactive.html
>
> Hey, even older groups would eat lots of shrooms
> and then drink their own urine to recapture the
> leftover :-)
Actually that deals with Siberian tribal peoples in the relatively
recent past using not magic mushrooms but fly agaric and others in
that class of toxic mushrooms. Problem is that life was hard and
that the people at the top of the tribal society used this and the
lesser folks caught their urine and drank the purified doses. When
life is hard people will do anything to ameliorate the consciousness
of pain and hardship. Even drink alcoholic beverages made from
really nasty stuff but alcohol itself has really nasty addictve and
opiate like-effects depresseing the breathing reflex.
> This is human reality. Fight it and lose. Kinda
> work with it and you have SOME control.
Or can you outlaw children spinning in place to get
dizzy?
bliss - retired and very tired nurse(LVN) in San Framcisco
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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