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   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 8/10/25 23:09, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 8/10/25 5:12 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> On 8/10/25 09:29, Lane the Caustic wrote:   
   >>> Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On 7/30/25 22:38, c186282 wrote:   
   >>>>> https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-07-young-adults-high-strength-   
   >>>>> cannabis.html   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Study shows young adults who use high strength cannabis do   
   >>>>> not 'titrate' to less risky levels of use   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      Don't they fall asleep when they do too much?   
   >>>>      The stronger the medication the less of it they have to use.   
   >>>>      What is risky when they have used cannabis to lower their   
   >>>> levels of understanding of risk?   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, tolerance is even more of an issue with cannabis than with   
   >>> alcohol.  It builds up fast and goes away fast, but it is very   
   >>> important to note that the tolerance can get very high.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thus they need to smoke more even of the high strength to get a buzz.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>      I can confirm that with medical cannabis the tolerance is a thing.   
   >>      i am having to use 2X the dose to get some sleep and by the   
   >> way Melatonin has the same problem.   
   >>      Best if you can to take a holiday from both for a while.  On the   
   >>   other hand when I was stuck in the Rehab facility with my   
   >> post-operative fused ankle this winter and spring I did not notice   
   >> withdrawal problems with any of the stuff I usually take which is a bit   
   >>   of a surprise since I was taking Vitamin C at 3000 mg. in three daily   
   >> 1000 mg. doses and I have had symptoms of scurvy on previous   
   >> withdrawals. Those were sore mouth problems.   
   >>   
   >>      But I cannot exercise enough to get tired enought to simply   
   >> go to sleep most days and if I exercise that much I generally   
   >> suffer for it that night with leg cramps and the next day cannot   
   >> perform at a reasonable level. I.e. get out of bed and do stuff.   
   >>   
   >>      At 4 AM I was 88 years of age.   
   >>      I have been using cannabis in one form or another for   
   >> about 50 years. I take better care of myself when ingesting   
   >> cannabis than i do without using cannabis.   
   >   
   >    Gee, an OLD pot-head  :-)   
      
   	Not really since I did not use until I was nearly 40 yoa.   
      
   >   
   >    Cal Commune life ? Tie-dye and lots of   
   >    nakedness ? Must have been fun. Just a   
   >    little too young to have enjoyed that   
   >    social phenom.   
      
   	I was a bit too old for the bs being sold and I had my own   
   interests to pursue not even when I was solicited because I had   
   my own singular interests to pursue. I never had enough energy   
   to work and go to school after I was 35 years of age. After that   
   survival came first then staying in my apartment when I had to   
   make half payments to the Manager who kniw me when I was   
   capable of working for a living.   
   >    (Don't be fooled, I *do* recognize the   
   >    'parasite' nature of all that - leech   
   >    on all the stuff the 'squares' created   
   >    while pretending to be 'free')   
      
   	Squares created the Prohibition of Cannabis the year I was born   
   in order to grow the Bureau of Narcotics under Harry J.Anslinger in 1937.   
   FDR signed it without knowing anything but that it was a drug. Hearst   
   propagandized against it as being used by non-whites who were interested   
   in seduction of white women so he was racist and femiphobe. That was in   
   the days when he still had a press empire. Hollywood exposed the "Assasin   
   of Youth" as cannabis not booze and dangerous, stupidifing work.   
   	After WW II the UN joined in the Fun of outlawing cannabis  which   
   Harry J. Anslinger rejoiced at because he believed that Cannbis would now   
   never be legalised. The group working on that at the time was called   
   as best I recall LEMAC. Woops off by a few letter LeMar.   
      
      
   >   
   >    Oh well, I'm not a prohibitionist - just urge   
   >    CAUTION with 'substances' - and sometimes those   
   >    who don't/can't exercise caution maybe HAVE to   
   >    fall into the legal universe.   
   >   
   >    If you can't fall asleep without a toke of   
   >    strong weed ... may be OTHER problems here.   
   >    At 88, likely. Consider increasing magnesium.   
   >    Melatonin - *I* can't use it, even half a   
   >    pill leaves me trashed the next day.   
      
      
      
   	I haven't smoked grass in many years as I say.  I take my THC   
   gummies and get some rest. I started on Melatonin at 5 mg and   
   tolerance has taken me to 15 mg. I am already on as much magneium   
   as my systems will tolerate.   
      
   	I am more worried about the damage prescribed painkiller   
   Acetaminophen might do. But then I am a very tired and retired   
   nurse so I think about things like that.  Then I remember that I   
   am 88 yoa when I never expected to live much past 60 or so. But   
   I got to feel better about my life just before Chronic Fatigue took   
   care of all my plans.   
   	After that and learning it only gets worse when you try to   
   lead a "normal" life I had to change a lot of my diet as with the   
   aid of virural infection I had become sensitive to aspirin then   
   cows milk and its products finally figuring out be elimination that   
   I had become allergic to animal produced casein which is the   
   basis of cheese, oranges, and gluten.  Took years to figure that   
   all out.  I may have not gotten all of the those sensitivities and   
   allergies figured out yet.   
   	Only very well off people can deal with with Chronic Illness   
   because they are the only ones who can afford to rest a lot  and   
   get attention from specialists.  The rest of us, some 42 years   
   ago and more recently, are as classified as head cases.   
   	What is in your head? Your brain which is suseptible to viruses   
   and other disease causing problems.  Some suffered from visible   
   via Xray malformation of the orifice from the skull to the spinal column.   
   	One guy had half his brain eaten away by syphillis before that   
   problem was discovered. He was able to work during his whole problem   
   	I was planning to save money to see a diagnostician in the MidWest   
   then he died but he had some success in the treatment of post-virual   
   exhaustion problems.   
   	   
   	But now I am 88 and have been aware of this problem since I was 46   
   years of age. Tried lots of expensive medications and supplements none of   
   which provided any real relief besides Undenatured Whey protein.  Using   
   Gluten Free bread which is not very attractive except in the context of no   
   bread at all relieved distressing symptoms and I got to eat a sandwich in   
      
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