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   'DVH' wrote thus:   
      
   >"aracari"  wrote in message   
   >news:e671520e6777f9ea2e8501f1123e508d@aracari.127.0.0.1...   
   >   
   >>   
   >> That is roughly my view of the Council of Ministers, of which the   
   >> new unelected President will be chairman of.   
   >   
   >Expect howls of protest telling you that it's actually the European Council   
   >he'll be president of.   
      
   IIUC the EC = the CoM, just a new name. No?   
      
   >The issue here is that the EU is structured in such a way that it can't be   
   >understood except by technocrats or those who have a professional interest   
   >in it.   
      
   ~~~   
      
   >The same was true of Lisbon - and even honest eurocrats like McCreevy   
   >admitted they hadn't read it.   
      
   Then of course he wouldn't understand it!   
      
   >> Clearly the intention   
   >> with Lisbon is to give the CoM a more visibly public role with its   
   >> President being higher up the pecking order than the Commission's   
   >> President. Not yet it seems but in good time.....all part of   
   >> constructing the new United States of Europe but with an unelected   
   >> President as No.2 or No.3 in the world.   
   >>   
   >> ISTM the parallel between the EU and Britain is that the EU   
   >> Commission is equivalent to our Civil Service but has enjoyed far   
   >> more power and autonomy, whereas the CoM is more like our   
   >> Executive/Cabinet which sets the agenda and decides policy, then   
   >> throws it over the wall to the Commission for implementation. The   
   >> Commission has always had a lot of power/freedom as to *how* it   
   >> implements CoM policy which has created examples of stupidity...   
   >> straight bananas etc.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Indeed. And where is the "elected" parliament in all this?   
      
   Oscillating between Strasbourg and somewhere else, then filling   
   out expense claims to cover their costs? ;-)   
      
   >Nowhere. It's a talking shop of castrates, the EU's harem servants.   
   >   
   >This week's Economist mentions they didn't even have the expertise to come   
   >up with their own opinion on the proposed fund managers directive - they had   
   >to commission a report from the private sector before they knew what to   
   >think.   
      
   Who'd have guessed!   
      
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