XPost: alt.politics.europe, soc.culture.europe, alt.fan.countries.russia   
   XPost: soc.culture.russian   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   U.S. POLICY, IS: NATO SHALL NOT EXPAND INTO UKRAINE, NOR FINLAND NOR GEORGIA.   
      
   We need President Biden to say this loud and clear, to the Russian Empire, and   
   thus stop antagonizing them, and end the war!   
      
   If that doesn't work, we can always reverse course.  It's what we've been   
   doing on   
   NATO since 1989.  But we do NOT need to have the Ukraine bombed, while we spend   
   billions on worthless bombs for them - which WILL increase inflation on the   
   price   
   of imports, while we don't have free Community College and higher education in   
   America!  FUCK!!!   
      
   U.S. policy is: NATO shall not expand into Ukraine, nor Finland, nor Georgia.   
      
   These three countries border Russia.  The Ukraine is practically the only way   
   into   
   Russia to invade.  Russia would be fools to let NATO be in the Ukraine.  They   
   will   
   never back down.  There are 30,000 U.S. troops in Germany, and 100,000 U.S.   
   troops   
   in Europe.  We would not let Russia have troops in Mexico.  If Baja was trying   
   to   
   secede for eight years, and Mexico didn't keep up its parts of the peace   
   agreements, we might recognize and protect Baja too.   
      
   There's no fighting Russia.  Sanctions on countries are typically used to   
   weaken a   
   country for twenty years before invasion.  Sanctions on Russia are obviously   
   sanctions on ourselves, as the price of oil rises.  But *IF* the sanctions DO   
   work, they will do nothing but antagonize a military superpower into a true   
   war!   
   This is what started other wars like World War I and World War II!  At this   
   point   
   Russia may attack other European countries.  Today, they act only out of   
   National   
   Security, which is understandable.  They're not crossing our lines, we're   
   crossing   
   theirs by putting troops in the Ukraine!   
      
   Policy can always be changed.  U.S. policy is: NATO shall not expand into   
   Ukraine,   
   nor Finland, nor Georgia.  Tell this to the Russian Empire loud and clear and   
   see   
   what they do.   
      
      
   On civil notes, the Ukraine should join the EU.  The United States and Canada   
   should have a nominal organization, and the U.S./Canada organization, the EU,   
   and   
   the Russian Eurasian Economic Union - the EAEU, should all have each other.  We   
   should unite these three organizaiton, and protect this northern industrial   
   area,   
   and keep wars to Africa, the Middle East, and fucked up places in Latin   
   America,   
   like Honduras.   
      
   Neither can we afford war in China.  A Chinese civil war could last 100 years.   
   And   
   does Taiwan really want to unite with China in the event of a coup?  Taiwan   
   should   
   renounce its claim on China, and join a new Japan/Korea/Hong Kong association,   
   or   
   join the EU, while Hong Kong secedes from China (Hong Kong's currently only a   
   territory like a British Oversease Territory, that China doesn't have, just   
   switching such a government situation from Britain to China in 1997 - like   
   Britain   
   doesn't have the Cayman Islands, or Bermuda; Hong Kong pop: 7MM) and joins the   
   nominal U.S./Canada org (our current Free Associates, the Marshall Islands,   
   Micronesia, and Palau could ultimately be in it too, but they shouldn't have   
   hardly any voting power).  We could then put nukes in Taiwan, which is run by   
   many   
   thinktanks.  It would be very advantageous to bring Hong Kong into our fold,   
   yet   
   uniting our three primary orgs, U.S./Canada + EU + EAEU, is of first and most   
   importance, and then we can see about the other four Asian nations, +   
   Australia +   
   New Zealand.  It doesn't go any farther than that.   
      
   When uniting nations, it is important to keep eight factors in mind, with the   
   first four most important, in order:   
      
   1. Population vs. Property   
   2. Language   
   3./4. Lawlessness vs. Opression   
   4./3. Religion & Philosophy   
      
   5. Race & Heritage   
   6. Proximity & Contiguity   
   7. Disease and Dangerous Animals   
   8. If the other nation wants   
      
   Civil unions are the way to end World War.  I believe the U.S. can afford   
   Europe   
   and Russia now.   
      
   Remember this: People in the Ukraine are idiots.  You have to lead them   
   correctly.   
     The Ukraine should become part of the EU.  But it does not need to be part of   
   NATO.  Nor do those idiots in Finland.  We are the United States.  We are the   
   more   
   intelligent.  We make the decisions.  Don't let them lead you.  _You_ tell the   
   Europeans what to do.   
      
   U.S. policy is: NATO shall not expand into Ukraine, nor Finland, nor Georgia.    
   Nor   
   shall Russia, nor the CSTO have weapons in these countries.   
      
   If the Russians want the Ukraine, then it can be in free association with   
   Russia,   
   even if it is in the EU, this does not require an invasion.  Kiev is less than   
   500   
   miles from Moscow.  And Moscow is 1,500 miles from Paris.  Russia is part of   
   Europe, not Arabia.  We cannot afford to not bring it into the fold.   
      
   Policy can always be changed.  Current U.S. policy is: NATO shall not expand   
   into   
   Ukraine, nor Finland, nor Georgia.  Tell this to the Russian Empire loud and   
   clear   
   and see what they do.   
      
      
      
   [Question: if sanctions on Russia, are really sanctions on ourselves, and   
   raising   
   oil prices; while Biden blames Putin for the price of oil rise. And: if trade   
   disputes really caused WWII; I think they caused WWI, of course WWI caused   
   WWII,   
   but then Napoleon caused WWI. If you don't remember; Napoleon and Hitler, both   
   invaded Russia unsuccessfully.]   
      
      
   Send this to all your Congressmen and Senators for me.  I don't have the time.   
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