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      XPost: alt.current-events.ukraine, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: sac.politics       From: zinn@reno.us              NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg held a special meeting of the       alliance’s arms directors to discuss ways to refill member nations’       weapons stockpiles.              But ramping up defense production is no quick or easy feat.              The U.S. has been by far the largest supplier of military aid to Ukraine       in its war with Russia, providing $15.2 billion in weapons packages to       date since Moscow invaded its neighbor in late February.              In the U.S. weapons industry, the normal production level for artillery       rounds for the 155 millimeter howitzer — a long-range heavy artillery       weapon currently used on the battlefields of Ukraine — is about 30,000       rounds per year in peacetime.              The Ukrainian soldiers fighting invading Russian forces go through that       amount in roughly two weeks.              That’s according to Dave Des Roches, an associate professor and senior       military fellow at the U.S. National Defense University. And he’s worried.              “I’m greatly concerned. Unless we have new production, which takes months       to ramp up, we’re not going to have the ability to supply the Ukrainians,”       Des Roches told CNBC.              Europe is running low too. “The military stocks of most [European NATO]       member states have been, I wouldn’t say exhausted, but depleted in a high       proportion, because we have been providing a lot of capacity to the       Ukrainians,” Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign       affairs and security policy, said earlier this month.              NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg held a special meeting of the       alliance’s arms directors on Tuesday to discuss ways to refill member       nations’ weapons stockpiles.              Military analysts point to a root issue: Western nations have been       producing arms at much smaller volumes during peacetime, with governments       opting to slim down very expensive manufacturing and only producing       weapons as needed. Some of the weapons that are running low are no longer       being produced, and highly-skilled labor and experience are required for       their production — things that have been in short supply across the U.S.       manufacturing sector for years.              Indeed, Stoltenberg said during last week’s U.N. General Assembly that       NATO members need to re-invest in their industrial bases in the arms       sector.              “We are now working with industry to increase production of weapons and       ammunition,” Stoltenberg told the New York Times, adding that countries       needed to encourage arms makers to expand their capacity longer term by       putting in more weapons orders.              But ramping up defense production is no quick or easy feat.              Is the U.S.’s ability to defend itself at risk?       The short answer: no.              The U.S. has been by far the largest supplier of military aid to Ukraine       in its war with Russia, providing $15.2 billion in weapons packages to       date since Moscow invaded its neighbor in late February. Several of the       American-made weapons have been game changers for the Ukrainians;       particularly the 155 mm howitzers and long-range heavy artillery like the       Lockheed Martin-made HIMARS. And the Biden administration has said it will       support its ally Ukraine for “as long as it takes” to defeat Russia.              That means a whole lot more weapons.              The U.S. has essentially run out of the 155 mm howitzers to give to       Ukraine; to send any more, it would have to dip into its own stocks       reserved for U.S. military units that use them for training and readiness.       But that’s a no-go for the Pentagon, military analysts say, meaning the       supplies reserved for U.S. operations are highly unlikely to be affected.              “There are a number of systems where I think the Department of Defense has       reached the levels where it’s not willing to provide more of that       particular system to Ukraine,” said Mark Cancian, a former U.S. Marine       Corps Colonel and a senior advisor at the Center for Strategic and       International Studies.              That’s because “the United States needs to maintain stockpiles to support       war plans,” Cancian said. “For some munitions, the driving war plan would       be a conflict with China over Taiwan or in the South China Sea; for       others, particularly ground systems, the driving war plan would be North       Korea or Europe.”              Javelins, HIMARs and howitzers       What this means for Ukrainian forces is that some of their most crucial       battlefield equipment – like the 155 mm howitzer – is having to be       replaced with older and less optimum weaponry like the 105 mm howitzer,       which has a smaller payload and a shorter range.              “And that’s a problem for the Ukrainians,” Des Roches says, because “range       is critical in this war. This is an artillery war.”              Other weapons Ukraine relies on that are now classified as “limited” in       the U.S. inventory include HIMARS launchers, Javelin missiles, Stinger       missiles, the M777 Howitzer and 155 mm ammunition.              The Javelin, produced by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, has gained an       iconic role in Ukraine — the shoulder-fired, precision-guided anti-tank       missile has been indispensable in combating Russian tanks. But production       in the U.S. is low at a rate of around 800 per year, and Washington has       now sent some 8,500 to Ukraine, according to the CSIS — more than a       decades’ worth of production.              President Joe Biden visited a Javelin plant in Alabama in May, saying he       would “make sure the United States and our allies can replenish our own       stocks of weapons to replace what we’ve sent to Ukraine.” But, he added,       “this fight is not going to be cheap.”              The Pentagon has ordered hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of new       Javelins, but ramping up takes time — the numerous suppliers that provide       the chemicals and computer chips for each missile can’t all be       sufficiently sped up. And hiring, vetting and training people to build the       technology also takes time. It could take between one and four years for       the U.S. to boost overall weapons production significantly, Cancian said.              “We need to put our defense industrial base on a wartime footing,” Des       Roches said. “And I don’t see any indication that we have.”              A Lockheed Martin spokesman, when contacted for comment, referenced an       April interview during which Lockheed CEO Jim Taiclet told CNBC: “We’ve       got to get our supply chain ramped up, we’ve got to have some capacity,       which we’re already investing to do. And then the deliveries happen, say,       six, 12,18 months down the road.”              Raytheon and the U.S. Department of Defense did not respond to CNBC       requests for comment.              What are Ukraine’s options?       In the meantime, Ukraine can look elsewhere for suppliers — for instance       South Korea, which has a formidable weapons sector and in August inked a       sale to Poland for $5.7 billion worth of tanks and howitzers. Ukrainian       forces will also have to work with replacement weapons that are often less       optimal.              Jack Watling, an expert on land warfare at the Royal United Services       Institute in London, believes there is still ample scope for Ukraine to              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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