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From: jimNOwalsSPAMh3@gmNOail.com
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:22:24 +0800, rst0wxyz wrote
(in article
):
> On Apr 20, 11:28 pm, Jim Walsh wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:59:26 +0800, fyfp...@gmail.com wrote
>> (in article
>> ):
>>
>>> On Apr 20, 5:18 pm, Jim Walsh wrote:
>>>> You need proof that the Chinese workers are exploited?
>>
>>> There is a level of exploitation anywhere even in socialist Canada
>>> because the market is not perfect, but by and large the level of
>>> exploitation in China is very low given its employment market is quite
>>> competitive. You need to demonstrate the labor market is monopolized
>>> by a few biggies in order to establish exploitation. People are not
>>> necessarily exploited simply because they are poor.
>>
>> OK. Here is the proof.
>>
>> The CCP is in control of licenses, permits, etc. etc.
>
> Aren't these also control by the American government, the British
> government, the French government,...?
No. The issuance of licenses in America, for example, is under the control of
laws. The ruling party does not control their issuance, as in the PRC.
For example, I obtained a business license for a law office from a Seattle
City clerk in 5 minutes for the fee of US$ 5. That is not remotely like the
case in the CCP run PRC.
>> (Of course, it will
>> grant them for bribes, but that is another story.) That is the monopoly you
>> say I need to prove to show exploitation.,
>
> Given the chance, the bad guy can exploit anywhere. Quite a few
> people have been caught in the United States for bribe in Drivers
> licenses, permits,...
No. The US is not free of bribery, true enough. But a bribe to get a driver's
license? No possible.
If you want compare the amount of corruption in the PRC with other countries,
google "the corruption perception index".
>> In a humane society, the workers could form unions to protect their
>> interests (not possible in the CCP-controlled economy).
>>
>> In a humane society, people could form cooperatives to produce goods in a
>> way that protects their interest (not possible in the CCP-controlled
economy).
>>
>> Would you like more proof?
>
> Try to control the street gangs, drugs trafficing, robberies, street
> killings and rapes in the United States. Would you like more proofs?
Sentences not related to the topic of exploitation of Chinese workers
ignored.
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Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
crossposts.)
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