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   Roger Dewhurst to Whileyouslept   
   Re: Hilarious "Boo-Hoo" Irish Newspaper    
   14 Jun 08 18:55:57   
   
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   From: dewhurst@wave.co.nz   
      
   Whileyouslept wrote:   
   > Electorate Has Been Taken In By Lies   
   >   
   > Irish Independent,   
   > June 14 2008   
   >   
   > WHAT is wrong with you people?   
      
   Nothing.  It seems that they are the smartest in Europe   
   >   
   > There are several million people in Europe depending on your vote for   
   > or against the Lisbon Treaty.   
      
   >   
   > We are all very affected by the decision you were asked to make about   
   > the new European Treaty. And what do you do? You don't even use your   
   > democratic right to vote.   
   >   
   > How difficult can it be? You sit down for two hours and seek   
   > information about the Lisbon Treaty. Then you make an informed   
   > decision.   
      
   They have.   
   >   
   > Or you listen to people that you trust and do what they advocate.   
      
   They have the sense not to trust politicians.   
   >   
   > But obviously that was too difficult for you.   
   >   
   > So now you are bringing all of Europe down with you.   
      
   Hooray.   
   >   
   > I do hope you are a little ashamed of yourself. I, for one, am very   
   > disappointed with the Irish people's lack of responsibility. Why do   
   > you even have direct democracy when you can't and won't use it?   
      
   They have.   
   >   
   > There are 166 TDs in the Dail and only six of them were on the 'No'   
   > side. What does this say and why do we elect a government?   
      
   Politicians are bent.   
   >   
   > I think it is a sad state of affairs for our democracy that a rag bag   
   > of Libertas, Coir, Youth Defence, Sinn Fein and a few defeated TDs can   
   > get the backing of our electorate with their lies, distortions and   
   > muddying of the waters.   
   >   
   > What next? I hope the other 26 states happy with Lisbon go ahead and   
   > leave us outside the door.   
   >   
   > Maybe then, when we have lost all the goodwill and expertise we had   
   > built up over the years and the benefits accruing, we might come back   
   > knocking on the door.   
   >   
   > It was only a matter of time. At the fist signs of a serious economic   
   > downturn, and the fear that hand-outs might be compromised,   
   > disgruntled workers embraced the false promises of manipulators and   
   > anarchists.   
   >   
   > To put such a complex treaty document to the people, knowing it was   
   > beyond the understanding of most ordinary folk, was nothing less than   
   > farcical.   
      
   I would put more trust in a bunch of cretins than a bunch of politicians.   
      
   R   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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