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|    Dirk Bruere at NeoPax to All    |
|    Re: 'EU Agrees' to Give American Secret     |
|    01 Jul 08 01:57:57    |
      a7a03321       XPost: uk.politics.misc, alt.conspiracy, soc.culture.jewish       XPost: alt.politics.immigration       From: dirk.bruere@gmail.com              JT wrote:       > NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States and the European Union are near       > a deal on letting law enforcement and security agencies obtain private       > information like credit card transactions and travel histories about       > people on the other side of the Atlantic, The New York Times reported       > on Saturday.       > (Advertisement)       >       >       > The newspaper, which obtained an internal report on the potential       > agreement, said it would amount to a diplomatic breakthrough for U.S.       > counterterrorism officials after a history of clashing with the EU       > over demands for personal data.       >       > It was unclear when the agreement could be completed, the Times said,       > citing officials, but the Bush administration wants to resolve the       > issues before leaving office in January and is hoping for an agreement       > that would not require congressional approval.       >       > Negotiators, meeting since February 2007, have mostly worked out draft       > language for 12 major issues at the heart of a "binding international       > agreement," according to the report. Among other things, the pact       > would make clear that European governments and companies could       > lawfully exchange personal information with the United States.       >       > A major unresolved issue is whether residents of EU countries would be       > able to sue the U.S. government over its handling of their personal       > data, the Times said. U.S. law does not allow foreigners to sue the       > U.S. government for damages in such instances, the Times said.       >       > The talks resulted from conflicts between the United States and Europe       > over information-sharing after the September 11 attacks. The Bush       > administration had demanded access to passenger data held by airlines       > flying out of Europe and by a consortium, known as Swift, which tracks       > global bank transfers. Several EU countries objected, citing privacy       > laws.       >       > U.S. and EU officials hope to avoid future confrontations "by finding       > common ground on privacy and by agreeing not to impose conflicting       > obligations on private companies," the Times quoted Stewart Baker,       > assistant secretary for policy at the Homeland Security Department, as       > saying.       >       > "Globalization means that more and more companies are going to get       > caught between U.S. and European law," said Baker, who is involved in       > the talks.       >       > Some European officials expressed concern at the prospective       > agreement's ramifications.       >       > "I am very worried that once this will be adopted, it will serve as a       > pretext to freely share our personal data with anyone, so I want it to       > be very clear about exactly what it means and how it will work," said       > Sophia in't Veld, a Dutch member of the European Parliament and       > privacy rights advocate.       >       > Negotiators are trying to work out minimum privacy rights standards,       > such as limiting access to information to "authorized individuals with       > an identified purpose" for seeing it, the Times said.       >       > http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080628/tpl-uk-security-usa-eu-81f3b62.html       >       > www.iamthewitness.com              ____________              I assume that EU govts also get all the details of US citizens in exchange?              --       Dirk              http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK       Remote Viewing classes in London              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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