XPost: aus.politics.guns, can.talk.guns, uk.politics.guns   
   From: nospam@anytime.com   
      
   "Angela Marsh"  wrote in message   
   news:Xns9BCD86EA13B9VoiceFreedomfreedomn@216.196.97.142...   
   > In the case of European gun related crimes, their governments and the   
   > people once again call for more of what consistantly fails and leads to   
   > more "gun violence".   
      
   In the case of Colorado and many other US states, their governments and the   
   people once again call for more of what consistently fails and leads to more   
   gun violence.   
      
   Compare gun homicide rates in the US with that in the European countries   
   cited and you will see which laws are associated with lower rates of gun   
   violence.   
      
   >Note that once again, the gun is blamed for the   
   > crime, not the perpetrator(s),   
      
   Where was the gun blamed?   
      
   > and conversly the people are left more   
   > and more at the mercy of evil.   
      
   Is that the deplorable evil of gun homicide rates that are a fraction of   
   those in the US   
      
   >   
   > Arm your people Europe, and teach them the use of arms from their   
   > earliest days, and your criminals will slink in fear of them.   
      
   That doesn't happen in  the US - why do you suppose it will happen in Europe   
   if they are foolish enough to follow the US example?   
      
      
   >Evil   
   > cannot be defeated fleeing from it, or by surrendering yourselves to   
   > it. It must be met head on wherever and whenever it is encountered.   
      
   Exactly right - we should not flee from the evil consequences of inadequate   
   gun laws, we must confront them, and that is exactly what is being done in   
   most countries, with one notable exception.   
      
   > If criminals walk about armed and doing violence wherever they please,   
   > what use is there to surrender the only time proven defense?   
   >   
   > The properly trained, armed citizen is the ONLY thing that has worked,   
      
   How has it "worked" in the US?   
      
   > and it works almost everytime it is tried,   
      
   Then why does the US have such a high firearm homicide are compared to most   
   other developed Western countries?   
      
   > even when he has little or   
   > no formal training. In the history of the world, nothing matches the   
   > track record of the armed citizen.   
      
   They certainly have quite a record in the US, but unfortunately the record   
   is for going postal and shooting family and fellow workers.   
      
      
   >   
   > WHY IS THAT SUCH A HARD TRUTH TO ACCEPT?   
      
   Probably because it isn't the truth. It is just your propaganda rant.   
      
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