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   "Spartan613"  wrote in message   
   news:pp1vl.28743$cu.477@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   > "Blinky Bill"  wrote in message   
   > news:49baefa8$1$32359$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...   
   >>   
   >> "Angela Marsh"  wrote in message   
   >> news:Xns9BCD86EA13B9VoiceFreedomfreedomn@216.196.97.142...   
   >>> In the case of European gun related crimes, their governments and the   
   >>> people once again call for more of what consistantly fails and leads to   
   >>> more "gun violence".   
   >>   
   >> In the case of Colorado and many other US states, their governments and   
   >> the people once again call for more of what consistently fails and leads   
   >> to more gun violence.   
   >>   
   >> Compare gun homicide rates in the US with that in the European countries   
   >> cited and you will see which laws are associated with lower rates of gun   
   >> violence.   
   >>   
   >>>Note that once again, the gun is blamed for the   
   >>> crime, not the perpetrator(s),   
   >>   
   >> Where was the gun blamed?   
   >>   
   >>> and conversly the people are left more   
   >>> and more at the mercy of evil.   
   >>   
   >> Is that the deplorable evil of gun homicide rates that are a fraction of   
   >> those in the US   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Arm your people Europe, and teach them the use of arms from their   
   >>> earliest days, and your criminals will slink in fear of them.   
   >>   
   >> That doesn't happen in  the US - why do you suppose it will happen in   
   >> Europe if they are foolish enough to follow the US example?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>Evil   
   >>> cannot be defeated fleeing from it, or by surrendering yourselves to   
   >>> it. It must be met head on wherever and whenever it is encountered.   
   >>   
   >> Exactly right - we should not flee from the evil consequences of   
   >> inadequate gun laws,   
   >   
   > The exisiting laws are entirely adequate.   
      
   What is your evidence for that? The US gun homicide rate certainly suggests   
   otherwise.   
      
   >It's the people who ignore tham that are the problem.   
      
   And the availability nof firearms.   
      
   >   
   > But you knew that already.   
      
   As you do.   
      
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