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   We are being spoon-fed stupid again...   
      
   Larisa Alexandrovna   
   March 11, 2009   
   atlargely.com   
      
   Can someone explain to me how 5 suspected members of Al Qaeda (although   
   there is no question regarding KSM) suddenly got their own PR machine   
   from inside Gitmo and at the hands of a military judge, not to mention   
   getting  a world stage through which to frighten Americans some more?   
   And the media? Well, they are too well versed in stupid to ask any   
   sensible questions:   
      
        "Five Guantanamo prisoners accused in the September 11, 2001,   
   terror attacks on the U.S. staunchly defended their actions, calling the   
   operation "blessed" and "great" and the accusations against them "badges   
   of honor."   
      
        "You are the last nation that has the right to speak about   
   civilians and killing civilians," the five said in a response this month   
   to the U.S. government's war crimes charges.   
      
        "You are professional criminals, with all the meaning the words   
   carry," the response said. "Therefore, we will treat you the same. We   
   will attack you, just like you have attacked us, and whomever initiated   
   the attacks is the guilty party."   
      
        The six-page response from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who plotted the   
   attacks, and four others castigates the actions of the United States and   
   its allies in the Middle East and calls the United States "the terrorist   
   country number one in the world."'   
      
   Okay, now someone explain the following to me:   
      
   1. How did 5 alleged Al Qaeda members come together to form this   
   statement, given that they are being held each in isolation at Gitmo?   
   Are they allowed to meet and discuss various topics, including their   
   alleged joy at bombing the United States? Somehow I don't think so. We   
   know that some of their own attorneys were not even aware of this filing   
   or what it said. So was this done telepathically?   
      
   2. And how is it that this filing was accepted by the court when some of   
   the attorneys for the 5 men were not even aware that such a thing was   
   going to be filed? Take a gander:   
      
   "The ACLU is angry that a military judge has accepted an incendiary   
   legal pleading filed by five 9/11 suspects, despite President Obama's   
   order stopping the Guantanamo military commissions and even though   
   attorneys for some of the defendants were unaware of it."   
      
   Now stay with me here. 5 alleged Al Qaeda members issue a statement of   
   guilt, an incendiary statement rejoicing at the lost American lives of   
   those attacks 7 years back, through a filing with the court. This filing   
   is accepted by the court despite some of the attorneys not being made   
   aware that this was going to be filed or what was going to be declared   
   on behalf of their clients. Moreover, defying President Obama's ruling   
   putting a halt on all Gitmo military commissions, the judge on the case   
   not only accepted this filing, but also released it to the public.   
      
   Does anyone else find this just all a bit too well timed, not to mention   
   idiotic? Seriously, what purpose could this serve in helping the   
   American cause or in keeping the nation safe?   
      
   I think we are witnessing the military industrial complex defying the   
   President of the United States and using the attacks of 9/11 to upset   
   the public and gain support for their own objectives. That is the nut   
   graph people. The media has spent all day rehashing this, calling in   
   military experts to decipher the minds of the accused without ONCE   
   asking the two obvious question: how and why?   
      
   -How did these 5 men discuss and approve this statement if some of them   
   and their attorneys were not even aware of it?   
      
   -Why did the court happen to accept this filing given the above issue?   
      
   -Why did the court decide to release this to the public, despite years   
   of secrecy on everything else, including denying access to something as   
   basic as current photographs of the accused?   
      
   -Why is this being released now?   
      
   -How does it benefit anyone to release this this to the public? (it only   
   benefits one group of people)   
      
   Yes, that's right, the military and its defense contractors - that   
   terribly incestuous pool of corruption - are playing scare the foolish   
   American people again, in public, and for the world to see in order to   
   frighten us to bend to their will.   
      
   Their only problem, per the usual, is that they are too swathed in   
   stupid to actually pull it off- even with such a compliant fourth   
   estate. Some of us actually still rely on reason and logic, common sense   
   even.   
      
   Consider what the MSM did report, however:   
      
        Gitmo prisoners defend 'blessed' 9/11 attack   
        Guantanamo detainees admit to 9/11 plot   
        9/11 detainees accept responsibility for attacks   
      
   Now, put aside your belief on what you think happened with these men,   
   what they did or did not do. I am not debating that here. The secrecy   
   and corruption of law are what I am talking about. So please don't   
   bombard me with emails that I am some sort of "gatekeeper" for the New   
   World Order. It is funny, yes, but annoying.   
      
   So, as to the secrecy and corruption of justice and law, let us consider   
   something called the Bush-Cheney war on terror. We were told for 7 long   
   years that all of this secrecy was needed to stop any future attacks   
   (right... maybe the secret bailout winners are all protecting us from   
   another Wall Street meltdown).   
      
   In their so-called aim at keeping America safe, the Bush administration   
   ended up holding no one to account formally - only in secret and in   
   doing so, actually endangered national security. How very clever of   
   them? No, not hardly.   
      
   Since when has the public accepted secret rulings, in secret courts,   
   based on tortured confessions, of people held illegally by the US and on   
   foreign soil without a shred of evidence being presented to the public?   
   How does that keep us safe? Moreover, how has torturing and detaining   
   these people for years and then quietly releasing them keep us safe?   
   Nope, not clever either. But I have given up trying to understand the   
   motives of the insane and corrupt.   
      
   But I digress, as I often do.   
      
   We have detained these men for years, refusing to release even a picture   
   of them to the public claiming that national security reasons override   
   the rule of law and then as if by magic and as President Obama moves to   
   cut off the military industrial feeding troth, suddenly all 5 detainees   
   admit their guilt. Wait, and the kicker is not only do the 5 admit their   
   guilt, but they sing it with joy, despite some of them and their   
   attorneys not even being aware that this filing was being introduced.   
   The military court, apparently no longer concerned about national   
   security and in violation of an order given by their Commander to halt   
   all such proceedings,  accepted the filing and set it free for the   
      
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