XPost: aus.politics.guns, can.talk.guns, uk.politics.guns   
   From: trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au   
      
   "10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   news:b6i9s4lsaf6so7lq3ks9ctb9crg16drjiq@4ax.com...   
   > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:02:15 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> The exisiting laws are entirely adequate.   
   >>   
   >>What is your evidence for that? The US gun homicide rate certainly   
   >>suggests   
   >>otherwise.   
   >   
   > Murder is against the law in the U.S.A.   
      
   **Well that law doesn't work. Perhaps it should be removed from the law   
   books. Is that your inference? Or are you trying to say something else?   
   Perhaps you could elaborate.   
      
   > Folks who have the intent to commit murder don't really care what   
   > method they use.   
      
   **Perhaps. In the US, however, they prefer to use a gun.   
      
   >   
   > The U.S.A. has over 20,000 laws restricting the use of firearms   
      
   **Really? That many? Got a cite for that? However, just to humour you for   
   the moment, you should understand that 20,000 weak, haphazard, poorly   
   regulated and just plain nonsensical gun control laws are not a replacement   
   for a dozen well thought out, tough, sane and properly policed gun control   
   laws. Perhaps the US could learn from places like Australia, where the gun   
   control laws are tough, sane, well policed and homogeneously applied accros   
   the entire nation.   
      
      
   > including a federal law that prohibits possession of a firearm by a   
   > convicted felon.  Many of the murders commited by all means in the   
   > U.S.A. are by felons with histories of violence.   
      
   **Of course. Thanks to the weak, haphazard and poorly regulated gun control   
   laws in the US, it is a trivial exercise for a felon to buy a gun from a   
   secondary source. Here's sort of how it might go:   
      
   Felon: "I'd like to buy your second hand gun please."   
   Gun seller: " Are you a convicted felon?"   
   Felon: "Nope."   
   Gun seller: "Good. Here's your gun. Have fun."   
      
      
   >   
   > Not to mention every year the net number of firearms increases in the   
   > U.S.A. while the total crime rate and the crime rate with firearms   
   > decreases. Please explain that.   
      
   **What? Explain your lie? Not possible.   
      
      
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   Trevor Wilson   
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