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   Blinky Bill to 10x@teluös.net   
   Re: Guns arent the problem, criminals ar   
   24 Mar 09 14:47:05   
   
   XPost: aus.politics.guns, can.talk.guns, uk.politics.guns   
   From: nospam@anytime.com   
      
   "10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   news:9t4gs4lbm4lsj8hb8acog92vd0elqkdgtr@4ax.com...   
   > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:22:58 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>news:j9kas41oo1bc8ursnpq66m4krgrl4fkk38@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:58:31 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>>>news:b6i9s4lsaf6so7lq3ks9ctb9crg16drjiq@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:02:15 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The exisiting laws are entirely adequate.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>What is your evidence for that? The US gun homicide rate certainly   
   >>>>>>suggests   
   >>>>>>otherwise.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Murder is against the law in the U.S.A.   
   >>>>> Folks who have the intent to commit murder don't really care what   
   >>>>> method they use.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>And ???? The reality is that 2 /3 of of murders use firearms in the US.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes that is a reality.  IF you take guns out of the equation will the   
   >>> number of murders drop or will will the methods change?   
   >>> The bottom line is, there are more guns available in the U.S. every   
   >>> year and there are fewer murders with guns every year.   
   >>   
   >>Not true - the FBI figures for firearm homicide are   
   >>2001  8890   
   >>2002  9528   
   >>2003 9659   
   >>2004 9385   
   >>2005 10100   
   >>2006 10177   
   >>   
   >   
   > Firearms and Violence, you should read it...   
   > This bit is very interesting.   
   > http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=11   
      
   I have - it contains nothing to contradict the numbers I cited.   
      
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