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   Frank Arthur to All   
   Re: FSB False Flag Terror and the Poison   
   26 Mar 09 16:31:36   
   
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   From: Art@Arthurian.com   
      
   "False Flag Terrorism" <911_Terror_Cops@noemail.net>   
      
   Immigration Issue Centers : National Security   
      
   Identity and Immigration Status of 9/11 Terrorists   
      
    According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the   
   September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks  were foreigners. All of them   
   entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas   
   with entry permits for six months.  Although four of them attended   
   flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered   
   on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1   
   student visa.  Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists   
   entered the United States only once and had been in the country for   
   only three to five months before the attacks.   
      
   The four pilots had been in the United States for extended periods,   
   although none was a legal permanent resident. Some had received more   
   than one temporary visa, most of which were currently valid on   
   September 11, but at least three of them had fallen out of status and   
   were, therefore, in the United States illegally.   
      
   The terrorists  had obtained U.S. identification that was used for   
   boarding flights in the form of Florida, Virginia, California and New   
   Jersey driver's licenses/ID cards. One of the terrorists, Mohamed   
   Atta, was detained in Florida for driving without a license, but   
   subsequently obtained one. Thirteen of the terrorists had Florida   
   driver's licenses or ID cards, seven had Virginia driver's licenses,   
   at least two had California licenses and two had New Jersey driver's   
   licenses. According to the March 28, 2002 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette,   
   Robert Thibadeau, director of Carnegie Mellon's Internet Security   
   labratory, says that "the 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 were holding 63   
   state driver's licenses for identification."   
      
   In the probe of the attack, numerous other people with potential   
   connections to the hijackings have been detained for immigration   
   violations.   
      
   [Note: In the conversion of names from the Arabic alphabet into ours,   
   there is no single correct spelling. This is why the names of the   
   terrorists vary in their spelling in different news accounts, and why   
   computerized databases will not recognize the name when it is spelled   
   differently from how it was entered into the database. For example,   
   Mohamed could be spelled Muhamed or Mohammed, and al-Suami could be   
   spelled Alsuami or al Swami, etc. ]   
      
   The Pentagon Plane (AA Flight 77, Dulles to Los Angeles)   
   Hani Hasan Hanjour (26) - Saudi Arabian - pilot   
   First came to U.S. in Oct. 1991 to study English in Tucson, Arizona.   
   Had been in U.S. in April 1996, when he lived in Oakland, Cal. where   
   he studied English, and later received flight training in Scottsdale,   
   Arizona. He left in Nov. 1996 and returned again in Nov. 1997 while he   
   obtained a FAA commercial pilot certificate. He left again in April   
   1999.   
   Obtained student visa (F-1) in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in Sept. 2000   
   after an initial refusal. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the   
   National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, Hanjour failed to reveal in   
   his visa application that he had previously traveled to the United   
   States.   
   Returned Dec. 2000 to study English at Holy Names College (Oakland CA)   
   but never showed up at the school. In illegal status because he did   
   not enroll, and his entry permit had expired at the time of the   
   attack.   
   Lived in San Diego, Phoenix and Mesa, Ariz. (with Nawaf al-Hamzi), and   
   later in Northern Virginia.   
   Had a Virginia driver's license.   
   Khalid al-Mihdhar (or Almidhar) - Saudi Arabian   
   Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.   
   In Malaysia in Jan. 2000. Followed by Malaysian agents tipped off by   
   CIA (see Wash. Post 2/3/02).   
   Arrived at Los Angeles Jan. 15, 2000 with Nawaf al-Hamzi on B-2   
   tourist visa from Malaysia.   
   Lived in San Diego, where he took flight training in May 2000 with   
   Nawaf al-Hamzi.   
   Left U.S. in June 2000 and obtained new B-1 visa in Saudi Arabia.   
   According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on   
   Terrorist Attacks, his application falsely indicated he had not   
   previously traveled to the United States and contained "suspicious   
   indicators." It also revealed that he had more than one passport.   
   Returned July 4, 2001, lived in New York.   
   Put on the Watch List for terrorists in August 2001 after entering   
   U.S. last time.   
   In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.   
   Had a Virginia driver's license.   
   Nawaf al-Hamzi (or Alhamzi) - Saudi Arabian (brother of Salem)   
   Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.   
   According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on   
   Terrorist Attacks, his application contained "suspicious indicators."   
   In Malaysia in Jan. 2000. Followed by Malaysian agents tipped off by   
   CIA (see Wash. Post 2/3/02).   
   Arrived at Los Angeles Jan. 15, 2000 with al-Midhar from Malaysia.   
   Lived in San Diego, where he took flight training in May 2000 with   
   al-Midhar, in Dec. 2000 moved to Mesa Arizona (with Hani Hanjour), and   
   later to Fort Lee, N.J., Wayne, N.J. and Northern Virginia.   
   Applied to INS July 12, 2000 for extension of permitted stay in U.S.   
   (apparently granted for additional six months).   
   Put on the Watch List for terrorists in August 2001. (with al-Mihdhar)   
   Had been in illegal visa overstay status for nine months at the time   
   of the attack.   
   Had California, Florida and Virgina driver's licenses .   
   Salem al-Hamzi (or Alhamzi)- Saudi Arabian (brother of Nawaf)   
   Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.   
   Arrived U.S. June 2001.   
   Lived in Fort Lee, N.J., Wayne, N.J.   
   In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.   
   Had a Virginia driver's license.   
   Majed Moqed - Saudi Arabian   
   Identity in doubt.   
   Entered on tourist visa obtained in Saudi Arabia after May 2001.   
   In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.   
   Had a Virginia driver's license.   
      
      
   The WTC North Tower Plane (AA Flight 11, Boston to Los Angeles)   
   Mohamed Atta - Egyptian (43) - pilot   
   Born in Egypt in 1968.   
   Graduated from Cairo Univ. with degree in Architectural Engineering in   
   1990.   
   Obtained visitor visa in Berlin Germany, May 2000.   
   Entered U.S. at Newark on June 3, 2000 on tourist visa and given entry   
   permit until December 2, 2000.   
   Applied in Sept. 2000 to INS for change in status to trainee.   
   Attended Huffman Aviation school in Venice Florida with al-Shehhi.   
   Arrested in Florida for driving without license, and failed to show up   
   for court date --bench warrant issued.   
   Subsequently obtained Florida driver's license.   
   Obtained FAA pilot's certificate.   
      
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