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   From: 10x@teluös.net   
      
   On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:32:17 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   wrote:   
      
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   >"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >news:kq0js456mde6lhigggvpqcanek43ollts4@4ax.com...   
   >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:09:58 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   >> wrote:   
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   >>>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>>news:el5is4tldod7net2a2kiggd8bqsgcjb7so@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:47:05 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
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   >>>>>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:9t4gs4lbm4lsj8hb8acog92vd0elqkdgtr@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:22:58 +1100, "Blinky Bill"    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>news:j9kas41oo1bc8ursnpq66m4krgrl4fkk38@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:58:31 +1100, "Blinky Bill"   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>"10x" <10x@teluös.net> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>news:b6i9s4lsaf6so7lq3ks9ctb9crg16drjiq@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:02:15 +1100, "Blinky Bill"   
   >>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The exisiting laws are entirely adequate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>What is your evidence for that? The US gun homicide rate certainly   
   >>>>>>>>>>>suggests   
   >>>>>>>>>>>otherwise.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Murder is against the law in the U.S.A.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Folks who have the intent to commit murder don't really care what   
   >>>>>>>>>> method they use.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>And ???? The reality is that 2 /3 of of murders use firearms in the   
   >>>>>>>>>US.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes that is a reality.  IF you take guns out of the equation will   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> number of murders drop or will will the methods change?   
   >>>>>>>> The bottom line is, there are more guns available in the U.S. every   
   >>>>>>>> year and there are fewer murders with guns every year.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Not true - the FBI figures for firearm homicide are   
   >>>>>>>2001  8890   
   >>>>>>>2002  9528   
   >>>>>>>2003 9659   
   >>>>>>>2004 9385   
   >>>>>>>2005 10100   
   >>>>>>>2006 10177   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Firearms and Violence, you should read it...   
   >>>>>> This bit is very interesting.   
   >>>>> http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=11   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>I have - it contains nothing to contradict the numbers I cited.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are absolutely right.  It does not contradict the numbers you   
   >>>> cited, but it puts them into perspective.   
   >>>   
   >>>And the perspective does not show them to be decreasing, ( SNIP )   
   >>   
   >> Once again, absolutely right the gross numbers are not decreasing,   
   >   
   >Then why did you claim they were decreasing evry year?   
      
   Didn't claim that, did claim that the numbers as a percentage of the   
   population were decreasing.   
   Are you always this confused?   
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