XPost: aus.politics.guns, can.talk.guns, uk.politics.guns   
   From: 10x@teluös.net   
      
   On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:42:25 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"   
    wrote:   
      
   >>   
   >> What I have figured out is that if individuals can not be trusted with   
   >> firearms in a society, then they can not be trusted with anything else   
   >> that can be used as a weapon.  Individuals who are that dangerous need   
   >> to be incarcerated or put into a position of very carefull   
   >> supervision.   
   >   
   >**You fail, yet again, to answer my questions. I shall repeat them:   
   >   
   >Are you really stupid, or are you being deliberately obtuse?   
   >   
   Neither stupid or obtuse, but forty years of keeping watcjomg a   
   progression of more restricive  gun laws and and less draconian   
   penalties for convictions of crime have lead to some conclusions.   
      
   >> You honestly believe that someone who has no reservations about   
   >> murdering other peopel will keep a promise to not touch guns?   
   >   
   >**Non-sequitur. Good, strong, sane gun control laws have little to do with   
   >promises.   
      
   And what ood, strong, sane gun control  laws would those be?   
   What jurisdiction has gun laws that work to reduce crime and violence?   
      
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