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   abelard to i've   
   Re: Glenn Beck Exposes Global Warming Sc   
   28 Nov 09 17:04:08   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.liberal, alt.politics.liberalism, boulder.general   
   XPost: talk.politics, uk.politics.misc   
   From: abelard3@abelard.org   
      
   On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:38:31 -0500, "krp"    
   wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"abelard"  wrote in message   
   >news:et52h59ol1ob9s5qetsd396ukk2jmap5n1@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >>>>>> >>> Armageddon is not nigh. The planet has been cooling for almost a   
   >>>>>> >>> decade and the fabled climate computer models never predicted   
   >>>>>> >>> that.   
   >   
   >>>>>> >> Then why is so much the world warming?   
   >   
   >>>>>> > IT ISN'T!   
   >   
   >>>>>> Ok then...   
   >   
   >>>>>> Why is the weather changing?   
   >   
   >>>>>> And can we do anything about it?   
   >   
   >>>>> No, Because we are not God, that's why.   
   >   
   >>>>>In order to truly believe in man made global warming, you must believe   
   >>>>>that the entire earth has had a steady climate and temperature until man   
   >>>>>created combustion engines.  That means if on this day, the average   
   >>>>>temperature in Tampa is 73 degrees, then it was 73 degrees one hundred   
   >>>>>years ago, and 73 degrees one thousand years ago, and 73 degrees ten   
   >>>>>thousand years ago.   
   >   
   >>>>>Of course, we know that isn't the case.  The earth has been under change   
   >>>>>since the time God put it here.  It's like death; it's unavoidable.   
   >   
   >>>> can't you hold two concepts in your head at the same time...   
   >>>> try it out...can you walk and chew at the same time   
   >   
   >>>> can you understand the difference between 10,000 years   
   >>>>    and 100 years?   
   >   
   >>>    What period of time do YOU insist we make the comparison? ONLY the   
   >>> past   
   >>>100 years? That's ALL of human history, then?  So we just ignore all of   
   >>>the   
   >>>5 to 10 BILLION years of Earth's history then?  Just count the period that   
   >>>suits YOU?   
   >   
   >> i'm insisting on nothing   
   >   
   >    Oh really? You bitched that HE couldn't understand the difference   
   >between 100 years and 10,000 years,   
      
   as he appears not to grasp that difference what possible   
       basis is there for discussion?   
      
   > As IF that was a clincher conclusive of   
   >your position that all life in the universe is about to end unless we stop   
   >using gasoline.   
      
   i've said no such thing...that has come from you   
      
   >  You beat the drums of the "settled science" that the Earth   
   >is now an oven, the seas are rising, the poor Polar Bears are dying off,   
   >whales are getting hickies,  and we are about to roast in the oven of   
      
   i've said none of that either....that again is from you...   
      
   although seas are rising   
      
   polar bears seem to be thriving   
      
   >GLOBAL WARMING. If that's true WHY do these "scientists" have to HIDE the   
   >data that the average temperatures are actually lower for the past century?   
      
   ho hum...relative to what?   
      
   a million years? a hundred years? a billion years?   
      
   i know of no-one sane hiding anything   
      
   >And YOU want to BITCH that we should look at 10,000 years ago   
      
   again, i said no such thing...again that is you...   
      
   >. HEY WEENIE!!   
   >There was an ice shelf over most of Europe 10,000 years ago,  Did HUMMERS   
   >cause that too? How many European cavemen do YOU think were driving SUV's   
   >10,000 years ago? Lots of cheeseheads in Wisconsin on their Skidoo's?   
      
   as you seem to have no sense of time why would i take you seriously?   
      
   as you keep claiming i've said things which in fact it is you doing   
       the saying...   
   again, why should i take you seriously?   
      
      
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