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   Fritz Wuehler to rick murphy   
   Re: The Cuban government announced Tuesd   
   28 Oct 12 07:54:35   
   
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   XPost: soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.cuba, alt.poli   
   From: fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net   
      
   On 10/16/2012 09:09 PM, rick murphy wrote:>   
   > Cuban communist dictatorship under the rule of Raul Castro (Fidel is   
   > sick and incapacitated) is consciously and deliberately letting its   
   > subjects to travel abroad without and exit visa. A mass exodus will   
   > follow immediately. Of course, the USA will have to house most of them   
   > as additional burden to its economy which is in trouble nowadays;   
   > their relatives are in the USA already. That is what Raul Castro and   
   > his cronies want; reduce the population. Because, with its Russian   
   > sponsor is not around anymore for free support and other communist   
   > dictatorship China does not give a damn, and N.Korea itself is   
   > starving. Cuban communist dictatorship cannot employ, provide housing   
   > and clothing, or feed the people under its rule anymore. It cannot   
   > provide most basic needs of the people. Bitching about America, Raul   
   > Castro finally learned, does not do any good either.   
   >   
      
   It is interesting you say this, but this is not a reality.  I assume you   
   are posting from France which has a history of bloody kings including   
   Napolean.   
      
   Much of the planning for the Bolshevik revolution took place in France.   
      
   And how much change has occurred in Cuba in the past 20 years?  Changes   
   that would normally take other countries hundreds of years.   
      
   Please do not be naive by calling these communists "dictators."  Although   
   the leader have much control over the party, it is an overstatement   
   at this piont to categorize it as a dictatorship, any more so then   
   the United States is a corpora-tacracy.   
      
   The rulers are not some crazy dictators.  They are attempting to   
   stay true to the principles of Marxism, which has numerous benefits for   
   its citizens, just as capitalism has numerous pitfalls for the average   
   man.  Do we need billionaires flying around with 20 jets   
   (and even fighter jets), while these people you mention are starving?   
   And you put this blame on Cuba?  In the US you are still in trouble if   
   you have medical problems and are not rich--it is not like somewhat   
   socialist France.   
      
   The leadership of Cuba has given the Cubans numerous opportunities to   
   leave the society freely over the years.  Although I am not sure   
   of all their motivations for this, your reasoning is strange.   
      
   Cuba, Soviet Union, Soviet Union under Stalin, China under Mao,   
   China Now, North Korea, Iran...these are all very different from   
   each other. The Stalinist Soviet Union for instance is very different from   
   what the majority of Russians, even communist Russians wanted.  And   
   Stalin is a reaction to very serious actions from the West.   
      
   Cuba has had some rough times, but never has been as you seem to be   
   describing.   
      
      
   >   
   >   
   > http://news.yahoo.com/govt-let-cubans-travel-freely-144513168.html   
   >   
   > Govt to let Cubans travel freely   
      
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