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|    Article 50 is a poisoned chalice - Don't    |
|    03 Mar 16 01:53:44    |
      https://livinginamadhouse.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/article-50-is       a-poisoned-chalice-dont-drink-from-it              Article 50 is a poisoned chalice - Don't drink from it              Robert Henderson              Those who think that British Europhile politicians will play fair if       Britain votes to leave the EU in June will be horribly disappointed. The       public may think that if the British people have voted to leave the EU and       that is an end of it regardless of        the wishes of the Government. Sadly, there is every reason to expect that       Brexit will be anything but a clean break from the EU.              To begin with there has been no commitment by Cameron to stand down as PM if       the vote goes against him. Quite the opposite for he has publicly stated       several times that he will stay on and many Tory MPs, including some of       those in favour of leaving        like Chris Grayling , have said that he must remain in No 10 whatever the       outcome of the referendum .              If Cameron stay on as PM after a vote to leave Britain would be in the absurd       position of having a man in charge of Britain's withdrawal who has shown his       all too eager commitment to the EU by the feebleness of the demands he made       during his "       renegotiation" and his regularly repeated statement before the conclusion of       the "renegotiation" that he was sure he would get new terms which would allow       him to campaign for Britain to remain within the EU.               A post-referendum Cameron government entrusted with negotiating Britain's       departure from the EU would mean that not only the PM but the majority of       his cabinet and ministers below cabinet level will be drawn from the       same pro-EU personnel as        he has today. In those circumstances Cameron and his fellow Europhiles would       almost certainly try to stitch Britain back into the EU with a deal such as       that granted to Norway and Switzerland. If that happened Britain could end up       with the most        important issue in the British public's mind - free movement of not only       labour but free movement of anyone with the right to permanent residence in       the EU - untouched .              But if Cameron leaves of his own accord soon after a vote to leave Britain       could still end up with a Europhile Prime Minister and Cabinet. Why? By far       the most likely person to succeed him is Boris Johnson. If he does become        PM there is every        reason to believe that he will also do his level best to enmesh Britain back       into the EU. Ever since Johnson became the Telegraph's Brussels       correspondent in the 1990s he has been deriding the EU, but until coming out       as a supporter of voting to        leave in the past week he has never advocated Britain's withdrawal. Johnson       also gave a very strong hint in the Daily Telegraph article in which he       announced his support for leaving the EU that his support for Britain leaving       the EU was no more than        a ploy to persuade the EU to offer more significant concessions than those       offered to Cameron. Johnson has also been a regular advocate of the value of       immigration.              The scenario of Cameron or Johnson deliberately subverting the intention of a       referendum vote to leave are all too plausible. There has been no public       discussion let alone agreement by leading politicians over what the British       government may or may        not negotiate in the event of a vote to leave. Nor has there been any       suggestion by any British politician or party that whatever the terms offered       by the EU the British public will have the right to vote on them in a       referendum. Britain could be        left with an agreement decided by the British Government and the EU which       might do nothing of what the British public most wants and has voted for,       namely, the return of sovereignty and the control of Britain's borders.              Then there is Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. Both Cameron and Johnson are       committed to doing so within the terms of the Lisbon Treaty of 2009. Far       from a vote to leave in the referendum putting Britain in the position of a        sovereign nation        engaging in a negotiation for a treaty with the EU it traps Britain into an       extended period of negotiation whose outcome is dependent on the agreement or       non-agreement of the 27 other EU member states and the EU Parliament. Let       me quote the Article        in full:              Article 50              Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its       own constitutional requirements.       A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of       its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European       Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State,       setting out the        arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its       future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in       accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the       European Union. It shall be        concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified       majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.       The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of       entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after       the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in       agreement with the        Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.       For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or       of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate       in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions       concerning it.       A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of       the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.              If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request       shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49. 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