The same demand, Erdogan requests from Germany, should be demanded from all   
   Europeans who raped, tortured and massacred maybe well over a billion totally   
   innocent peoples all over the world during past several centuries.   
      
   For instance, just starting with Alexander the not-so-great, Ancient Greek   
   king of Macedonia, after conquering and massacring all the peoples in the   
   Balkans, Anatolia, the Levant and Syria, Egypt, Assyria and Babylonia, Persia,   
   he went all the way to    
   India thousands of miles away and did the same there in 327 B.C.   
      
   France built a mausoleum for Napoléon Bonaparte as French national hero who   
   murdered many millions of peoples in Europe, Russia, Northern Africa, Middle   
   East, and causing immense sufferings in the others. He called his murders   
   "glory."   
      
   Let alone Franco of Spain, German Hitler, Russia's Lenin and Stalin, Italian   
   Benito  Mussolini and many others.   
      
   Is this a sign of civilization, or savagery???   
      
   Only because, Europeans developed extremely brutal killing machines (jet   
   bombers, missiles, mines, etc.), they think they are civilized and better   
   peoples than others.   
      
   This is a just self-deception on their part. They are still brutal savages as   
   their Alexander the not-so-great of whom they are very proud of.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)