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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: super70s@super70s.invalid              What Trump officials claimed about Alex Pretti -- and what the evidence       actually shows       By Daniel Dale       CNN.com       Jan. 25, 2026       6:00 pm EST       Updated 2 hr ago              Top officials in President Donald Trump's administration have responded       to the killing of Alex Pretti by the Border Patrol in Minneapolis on       Saturday with a torrent of claims that are either contradicted by video       footage or unsupported by any evidence presented so far.               * Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem claimed Pretti "attacked"       officers, an assertion echoed by FBI Director Kash Patel, but no       footage available as of Sunday afternoon shows Pretti committing any       attack.               * Noem claimed Pretti was "brandishing" a gun, but no available       footage shows Pretti even holding a weapon in his hand at the scene; a       concealed gun appeared to be taken from his waistband area by a federal       agent moments before he was shot.               * White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller referred to Pretti       as "an assassin" who "tried to murder federal agents," Vice President       JD Vance reposted this claim, and Border Patrol commander Gregory       Bovino (and the Department of Homeland Security in a social media post)       said it "looks like" Pretti "wanted to do maximum damage and massacre       law enforcement." But nobody has shown any evidence that Pretti sought       to kill anyone, let alone perpetrate a massacre.               * Patel suggested that Pretti broke the law by carrying a concealed       gun at a protest, but the Minneapolis police chief said Pretti had a       permit to carry the gun and was allowed to have it on him as he was       protesting in a public place.              Pretti's parents issued a statement on Saturday saying, "The sickening       lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and       disgusting." And in television interviews on Sunday, the administration       declined to repeat some of its most incendiary allegations from       Saturday about Pretti, who was a registered nurse in an intensive care       unit at a Veterans Affairs facility.              Here is a look at how the Trump team's shifting rhetoric squares with       what is known about Pretti and the circumstances around his death.              *** The administration claimed that Pretti 'attacked' officers. But       videos don't show Pretti committing any attack ***              Noem told reporters Saturday: "This individual impeded the law       enforcement officers and attacked them," repeating the phrase "attacked       them" moments later for emphasis. When Patel was asked about the       shooting in a Sunday interview on Fox News, he responded, "You do not       get to attack law enforcement officials in this country without any       repercussions."              No video of the incident available as of Sunday afternoon showed Pretti       attacking officers.              Various footage shows him directing traffic at the site of an       immigration enforcement operation, yelling at a federal agent who was       interacting with other bystanders to "not push them into the traffic,"       holding up a cell phone appearing to record agents, and stepping in       front of an agent to intervene as the agent shoved a woman to the       ground; Pretti appeared to make momentary contact with the agent with       his right arm and left hand.              The agent then sprayed him with a chemical irritant and dragged him to       the ground; other officers joined in the confrontation as Pretti       appeared to resist, and one agent appeared to strike him repeatedly as       he was on the ground.              In a Sunday interview with CNN's Dana Bash, Bovino claimed Pretti       "assaulted federal officers." But when Bash pressed Bovino to explain       what moment in the video showed Pretti committing such an assault,       Bovino would not provide any specifics.              Noem used noticeably softer language in a Fox News interview on Sunday       morning than she had Saturday. This time, instead of saying Pretti       "attacked" law enforcement, she said Pretti was "laying hands on law       enforcement."              *** Videos contradict Noem's Saturday suggestion that Pretti was       'brandishing' a gun - and other officials wouldn't repeat that claim on       Sunday ***              Noem claimed Saturday that Pretti "had a weapon on him, and multiple -       dozens - of rounds of ammunition; wishing to inflict harm on these       officers, coming, brandishing like that."              Temporarily leaving aside the claim about Pretti's supposed intention       to inflict harm, which we'll address below, Noem's claim that Pretti       was "brandishing" a gun is contradicted by videos of the incident. At       no point in the available footage was Pretti holding a gun in his hand,       let alone waving it or trying to intimidate someone with it.              "I don't have any evidence that I've seen that suggests that the weapon       was brandished," Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara said in a Sunday       interview on CBS.              Footage taken of Pretti walking around prior to the shooting showed him       carrying a cell phone in one hand and nothing in the other. Subsequent       footage appears to show a federal agent removing a gun from Pretti's       waistband area when Pretti was on the ground just moments before being       shot.              Notably, administration officials would not repeat or defend Noem's       "brandishing" claim in interviews on Sunday morning.              When Patel was asked on Fox how Pretti was supposedly using the gun to       threaten Border Patrol given that Pretti was only holding a phone,       Patel did not explain, saying he would defer to "DHS and the       prosecutors - because they are the ones investigating that case." Asked       in an interview on NBC whether Pretti brandished a gun at any point,       Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche also declined to make a firm       comment, saying "there is obviously an investigation that's ongoing."              *** The administration has provided no evidence for its claims Pretti       was 'an assassin' or planned to 'massacre' officers ***              Top administration officials tried Saturday to portray Pretti as a       would-be mass murderer.              In a Saturday post on social media platform X, Miller referred to       Pretti as "an assassin" who "tried to murder federal agents." Miller's       comment - a reply to a Democratic senator who called for ICE to leave       Minneapolis and for Congress to refuse to fund ICE in its current form       - was reposted by Vance.              Bovino claimed to reporters, "This looks like a situation where an       individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement;"       the Department of Homeland Security used the same language in a post on       X. And Noem similarly told reporters: "This looks like a situation       where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on       individuals and to kill law enforcement."              But nobody has presented evidence that Pretti was trying to assassinate              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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