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|    Out With Them to All    |
|    Arizona Republicans say 'FAFO' in respon    |
|    28 Jan 26 12:03:15    |
      XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.politics.republicans, az.politics       XPost: sac.politics       From: deathpenalty@illegal.aliens              PRESCOTT VALLEY — Arizona Republicans are standing by President Donald       Trump’s immigration crackdown after a federal agent shot a second       protester in Minneapolis.              Minneapolis resident Alex Pretti was shot and killed by a Border Patrol       agent during a protest there on Jan. 24.              “FAFO,” said Kingman activist Barbara Carpenter, 76, an acronym often used       by the White House, which stands for the phrase “(Expletive) around, find       out.”              The Pretti shooting marked the latest escalation in Trump’s immigration       operation in Minneapolis, which is playing out in dramatic clashes between       protesters and federal agents on the streets of the Minnesota city.              Department of Homeland Security officials said the Pretti, a VA nurse, had       approached officers with a handgun and an officer fired “defensive shots”       after Pretti resisted an attempt to disarm him.              However, video circulating on social media appeared to show officers had       disarmed Pretti before he was shot. Pretti was a U.S. citizen with a       license to carry a firearm, according to Minneapolis Police Chief Brian       O’Hara.              An ICE agent shot and killed Minneapolis protester Renee Nicole Good some       17 days earlier.              Immigration issues top of mind at Arizona GOP meeting       Roughly 1,600 miles away, Republicans gathered at the Findlay Toyota       Center in Prescott Valley for the state Republican Party’s annual       mandatory meeting.              Immigration was top of mind for border state Republicans who spoke with       The Republic in interviews during the meeting. They voiced support for       federal immigration agents and said they’d like to see more undocumented       immigrants deported, a promise Trump had made on the campaign trail.              Protesters are getting in the way of ICE agents doing their jobs, said       Carpenter, a Republican activist and retiree who lives in Kingman. She       serves as the secretary for the Kingman Republican Women and the second       vice chair for the Mohave County Republican Central Committee.              “I’m sorry, they’re trying to do their job. Let them do their job. Stay       home, stay out of the way. Then you won’t have people that aren’t supposed       to be involved in this getting in trouble. They’re doing it to       themselves,” said Carpenter, who is also a state committee member and       works in the GOP office in Kingman.              Leigh Collins, the first vice chair in Arizona's 8th legislative district,       echoed that view.              “Anybody who’s been maced, how do you get maced? Because you’re in their       face. I’m sorry, if you’re at home and not interfering, you don’t get       maced,” Collins said. “Let them do their job. They’re just federal workers       doing what they’ve been asked to do.”              DHS, which oversees the Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs       Enforcement, has deployed thousands of agents to Minneapolis in recent       weeks. The Trump administration called “Operation Metro Surge” its largest       operation ever.              “I’m 100% behind ICE because I think that if Biden hadn’t had the borders       open, we wouldn’t have to have all this going on. And if all the blue       states would do their job instead of harboring them and have sanctuary       cities, ICE wouldn’t need to go in,” Collins said.              Trump accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey,       both Democrats, of inciting insurrection and called on police to protect       ICE officers in a Truth Social post that included a photo of Pretti’s gun.              “Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE       Officers? The Mayor and the Governor called them off? It is stated that       many of these Police were not allowed to do their job, that ICE had to       protect themselves — Not an easy thing to do!” Trump said. “The Mayor and       the Governor are inciting Insurrection, with their pompous, dangerous, and       arrogant rhetoric!”              Joe Reyes, a 74-year-old retired risk manager who lives in Fountain Hills,       said places like Minneapolis and his former home state of California “want       to impede progress.”              “They do everything to make things difficult and then they continue to       want to be throwing stones at Trump, saying he’s not doing anything, doing       the wrong things, and on and on and on. Bottom line is, the results speak       for themselves. And if it’s going to take a little inconvenience to get       that level of results, I and many others are all-in,” Reyes said. “After       all, we, the American public at large throughout the U.S., we put him in       office to do the things that he’s doing now.”              Some people at the GOP meeting said they were suspicious about the       backgrounds of protesters in Minneapolis.              “If somebody blocks traffic for hours, like that gal did that got shot,       she was not just a common citizen. I don’t know if she was paid to be       there, but the news ought to tell us that,” said Steve Billheimer, 73, of       Tucson.              Billheimer hadn’t seen the latest shooting but said he suspected the       person killed had been paid to protest and would like to see the press       investigate his background. There hasn’t been any evidence that Good or       Pretti were being paid to protest DHS agents.              Former Yuma County Republican Committee Chair Greg Wilkinson is originally       from Minnesota and has family and friends who live in Minneapolis. He       compared the city with Memphis, another city that has been the target of       ICE enforcement.              He echoed Trump and said he was frustrated that Walz and Frey weren’t       allowing local police to work with Trump.              “Minneapolis is fighting this, instead of letting their law enforcement       work with them,” said Wilkinson, who is a retired lieutenant colonel in       the Marine Corps. “I wish nobody would get killed, but like what happened       today, when you pull a gun on an ICE officer, well.”              Nicolle Wilkinson, his wife, agreed. She has had one of the largest       women’s gun clubs in Arizona for a decade, she said.              “A permit to carry does not give you the right to pull a gun on a law       enforcement officer. It just doesn’t,” Nicolle Wilkinson said.              She also criticized Democratic Attorney General Kris Mayes, who said       recently Arizona’s “Stand Your Ground” law could lead to shootouts with       masked ICE agents who are unable to be identified.              “They’re going to get more people killed,” Nicolle Wilkinson said of       Mayes.              The aftermath of the Pretti shooting also teed up a fight on Capitol Hill,       where lawmakers are under pressure to pass legislation to fund the       government past Jan. 30.              That includes funding for the Department of Homeland Security. Sens. Mark       Kelly, D-Arizona, said he’ll vote against the DHS budget in the wake of       Pretti’s death.              “We are better than this. We can enforce our laws without this chaos and       federal agents killing people in the streets,” Kelly said on X. “I’m going       to do everything I can to stop Trump’s deployment of federal law       enforcement against American cities. That starts with voting no on DHS’s       budget this week.”              Carpenter, the GOP activist from Kingman, disagreed with Kelly’s comments.              “He’s anti-American,” Carpenter said. “We have to be a country of laws,       and we need to follow them.”                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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