XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics   
   From: j_d@invalid.org   
      
   Armed Minneapolis anti-ICE protester Alex Pretti was carrying a popular   
   handgun that has a history of unintentionally firing — leading some gun   
   experts to suggest that the gun might have accidentally discharged after a   
   Border Patrol agent grabbed it from him, causing another agent to open   
   fire, killing him Saturday.   
      
   Pretti, 37, an ICU nurse angry at President Trump’s crackdown on illegal   
   immigration in Minnesota, was carrying a loaded Sig Sauer P320 9mm pistol   
   when he allegedly tried to stop federal agents from arresting a woman on   
   the street.   
      
   Cops said he had a legal concealed-carry permit for the gun.   
      
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   Video from the scene shows one federal agent yelling “Gun” and grabbing   
   the weapon from Pretti. The agent is seen walking away with the weapon in   
   his hand, when another agent suddenly stands up and fires multiple times —   
   killing the Minnesota nurse.   
      
   Rob Doar, a lawyer for the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, said he believes   
   that Pretti’s gun went off after the agent grabbed it, leading the other   
   agent to open fire.   
      
   “I believe it’s highly likely the first shot was a negligent discharge   
   from the agent in the grey jacket after he removed the Sig P320 from   
   Pretti’s holster while exiting the scene,” Doar said on X.   
      
   The P320 model is widely carried by armed civilians and US law   
   enforcement, including ICE — but has been the subject of more than 100   
   allegations that it has a defect that allows it to fire “uncommanded.”   
      
   Authorities shared a picture of Pretti’s loaded handgun in the wake of   
   Saturday’s shooting, showing a fully loaded magazine.   
      
   The weapon appears to be a high-end custom variant, a P320 AXG Combat,   
   which comes with three 21-round magazines. The gun retails for $1,100 to   
   $1,300.   
      
   President Trump shared a picture of the gun on his Truth Social,   
   questioning why Pretti had attended a protest carrying a loaded weapon,   
   and speculating as to whether local police were told to stay away from the   
   scene by Democrats such as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, and Minneapolis Mayor   
   Jacob Frey.   
      
   “This is the gunman’s gun, loaded (with two additional full magazines!),   
   and ready to go – What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why   
   weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers? The Mayor and the Governor   
   called them off?” the president wrote.   
      
   “It is stated that many of these Police were not allowed to do their job,   
   that ICE had to protect themselves — Not an easy thing to do!” Trump   
   added.   
      
   Although Pretti had a permit to legally carry a firearm, according to   
   Minneapolis police, the Department of Homeland Security has previously   
   claimed it is “unlawful” for protesters or observers to bring guns to   
   demonstrations.   
      
   In November 2021, a Philadelphia jury awarded US Army veteran George   
   Abrahams $11 million after his holstered Sig went off while he was going   
   down the stairs, causing permanent leg injuries.   
      
   “We’ve been asking Sig for over three years now to recall this gun, to fix   
   it, and frankly to use the same type of safeties that other manufacturers   
   are using that Sig Sauer is not,” the plaintiff’s lawyer, Robert W.   
   Zimmerman, said at the time of the verdict.   
      
   New Hampshire-based manufacturer Sig Sauer defended the P320, describing   
   it as “among the most tested, proven, and successful handguns in recent   
   history,” in a statement on its website at the time.   
      
   In April 2025, Sig Sauer executive Bobby Cox successfully lobbied in the   
   New Hampshire State House for a new law shielding the arms manufacturer   
   from liability lawsuits over its P320 pistol.   
      
   Republican Gov. Kelly Ayotte signed the bill in May 2025, despite   
   objections from some Democrats, who said Sig Sauer should be forced to   
   defend its claims in court.   
      
   Sig said it has fixed the issue and noted that accidental discharges are   
   exceedingly rare, considering the millions of pistols produced.   
      
   In 2017, the company brought in a “Voluntary Upgrade Program,” allowing   
   owners to change their handguns for updated models designed to solve   
   safety concerns regarding so-called drop-firing, where the gun discharged   
   when dropped at a specific angle.   
      
   Additionally, in 2020, a consumer-focused class action known as the   
   “Hartley class action settlement” was completed.   
      
   It applied to all owners of Sig Sauer P320s manufactured before Aug. 8,   
   2017, who experienced “Cartridge Failure Events,” or internal mechanical   
   failures when firing.   
      
   The settlement provided refunds for previous repair costs, a lifetime   
   warranty against cartridge failures, and reinforced the Voluntary Upgrade   
   Program. Controversially, it did not cover compensation for personal   
   injuries from gunshot wounds or address the “unintentional discharge”   
   claims that had been at the center of various lawsuits.   
      
   Sig Sauer didn’t respond immediately to requests for comment.   
      
   Conversation   
      
   Not_A_Lib DonkeypoxIsKillingAmerica   
   2 days ago   
      
   Minnesota is drawing attention because the state is saturated with illegal   
   activity tied to large-scale fraud schemes. By contrast, in Florida and   
   Texas, local law enforcement does its job maintaining order and crowd   
   control. Obstruction of government administration is not tolerated or   
   encouraged by elected officials as a distraction from their own complicity   
   in fraud.   
      
   JoeyDee   
   2 days ago   
      
   Hmmm...   
      
   "The officers in Minneapolis were in a physical struggle with an armed   
   suspect when a gun was perceived and the word “gun” was shouted. Under   
   settled self-defense law, officers are entitled to rely on fellow   
   officers’ reasonable perceptions. They do not have to personally confirm   
   the threat.   
      
   Once a firearm appears during active resistance, the legal standard is   
   simple: reasonable perception of imminent deadly force. That standard was   
   met here. Freeze-frame activism doesn’t override real-time dynamics, and   
   the law does not require officers to wait to be shot. This was a   
   tragic—but lawful—use of force."   
      
   Enough is Enough   
   2 days ago   
      
   Correct...   
      
   They do not have to personally confirm the threat. Once a firearm appears   
   during active resistance, the legal standard is simple: reasonable   
   perception of imminent deadly force.   
      
   That standard was met here.   
      
   justcurious   
   2 days ago   
      
   Before we get to the "drama" of the gun, let us ask a question: why does a   
   so-called compassionate, hospital worker enter a protest area, with a   
   loaded gun, already knowing a person (protestor) has been killed, and   
   confront the ICE agents? He knows any display of a gun would cause panic   
   among the agents. There are various ways to protest, so why go to a   
   troubled area with a loaded gun? Doesnt sound peaceful to me, and, not so   
      
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