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   > "... for a politician" ?  :-)   
   >   
   >   Actually he and his whole fam seem VERY dishonest,   
   >   even for politicians - but that's kinda moot now.   
   >   
   >   The Problem is that he DID create a GIGANTIC mess   
   >   with the illegals. ICE/BP have to be more like the   
   >   abovedescribed bulldozers, no time for nicey-nice.   
   >   Hell, even NOT being nicey-nice they STILL have a   
   >   huge inventory of Really Bad People to nab. Some   
   >   not-so-evil people get caught up in it, because   
   >   they're Right There, but those are lesser targets   
   >   for now.   
   >   
   >   Sorry, but sometimes things just get that way, no   
   >   hope for 'good optics', just The Big Job. We and   
   >   our allies blasted entire German cities in WW2,   
   >   there was no way to JUST get Hitlers prime people   
   >   and industries, so ... Interesting image there ... :-)   
   >   Don is a sharp PR/biz guy, he will make it all work out.   
   >   
   >   At least he's TRYING best as possible - endless predecessors   
   >   only TALKED about doing things, then sat back and collected   
   >   their checks and pounded their chests because they'd   
   >   MENTIONED maybe possibly perhaps doing something.   
   >   
   >   The whole equation for 'western civ' has been going down   
   >   the toilet for two or three decades. The nastiest world   
   >   dictators are poised to assume full control. VERY bad !   
   >   Things HAD to be shaken-up, people/govt HAD to be shaken   
   >   awake.   
   >   
   >   Don is The Guy.   
      
   But don't forget that the Donald is his own predecessor (and, with a   
   $1.24 billion positive delta in his net worth over the past year, has   
   done a *very* effective job of collecting his paychecks!)  Our issues   
   with immigration are accurately traced to the country's founding;   
   slavery might be viewed as immigration, so it certainly didn't start   
   with Joe Biden.  I remember well "Operation Intercept" from 1971   
   during Tricky's first term:   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Intercept  While billed as   
   intercepting pot, this was also very much an immigration thing.   
   During the '60s, we were preoccupied with the Vietnam War, but   
   immigration matters were certainly lurking just beneath the surface.   
   Since Operation Intercept, there have been nine Republican terms and   
   six Democratic presidents; thus, the Republicans have certainly had   
   their opportunity to have addressed the matter.   
      
   The Donald's approach has thrown the whole country into chaos... but,   
   then, Trump ver 1 also led by chaos, and Americans reelected him, so   
   we must like it.  (We're like a couple in an abusive, battering   
   relationship who keep running right back into it!)  Maybe some people   
   like the chaos; however, it is simply not sustainable as an   
   immigration policy.  We're like the artillery commander who unleashes   
   a huge bombardment of his enemy's positions... "Wow! Just *look* at   
   that fire power!"  But his logistics aren't with him; he can't keep it   
   up... soon he has nothing left in reserve.   
      
   We must move beyond the culture wars to an intelligent, proactive, and   
   *sustainable* border policy... currently, we have political   
   retribution (where ICE enforcement is punishment for   
   Democratically-led states) and knee-jerk reactions.  The Donald will   
   soon shoot his wad, then we're back in political stalemate until his   
   term is up; assuming he lasts *that* long.   
      
   As a Republican, I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden; however, he did make   
   several proposals that I thought congress should have considered.  If   
   history repeats, then we would elect the next administration as far   
   left as the Donald is right (or where ever he is.)  If we don't manage   
   to snap out of it, we're on track for a societal implosion.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)