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|    Anti-Trump Far-Left Radical Amon Bundy S    |
|    02 Feb 26 15:36:47    |
      XPost: talk.politics.misc, or.politics       From: TrumpFucksKids@gmai.com              He has enraged our demented imperialist leader!              He will be labeled an Enemy of The TrumpenReich.              Ammon Bundy Is All Alone              The anti-government militia leader can't make sense of his allies' support       for ICE violence.              February 1, 2026, 7:30 AM ET              Not so long ago, Ammon Bundy was the most famous right-wing militia leader       in America. His two armed standoffs with federal agents had made him the       face of the Patriot Movement: a loose assemblage of anti-government       extremists, Second Amendment maximalists, and more than a few white       nationalists. Even some mainstream elements of the Republican Party       embraced him as a modern folk hero. But Bundy's criticism of the Trump       administration's immigration crackdown now threatens to make him a pariah       within his own community.              In November, Bundy self-published a long essay titled "The Stranger, " in       which he labeled the Trump administration's treatment of undocumented       immigrants a "moral failure. " "To call such people criminals for lacking       official permission" to be in the country, he wrote, "is to forget the       moral law of God, the historical truth of our own founding, and the       Constitutional ideals that continue to define justice. " On a recent       livestream following the killing of Renee Good in Minnesota, Bundy told his       audience that ICE's conduct "clearly looks like tyranny. " If the       government threatened his family, he said, he would fight back by whatever       means necessary.              I spoke with Bundy a few hours after federal immigration agents shot and       killed Alex Pretti. "It's sickening to me, " he told me over the phone,       "just to see the parallels of history repeating itself. " (In his November       essay, he had compared the administration's treatment of immigrants to the       internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. ) He added, "When it       comes to the more humanitarian side of it, I think the left has it much       more correct than the nationalist right. "              Read: Ammon Bundy has disappeared              Bundy, to be clear, has not gone woke. He believes that Democrats, whom he       calls "communist-anarchists, " are "spurred by wickedness. " (So, he says,       are Republicans, whom he calls "nationalists. ") He believes that       government has no business providing virtually any social services. He       believes that homosexuality is a sin. And don't ask him about vaccination       requirements.              But perhaps Bundy's central belief is the inviolability of individual       liberty, and in this he has remained fairly consistent over the years.       During the first Trump presidency, Bundy took heat from some of his       followers for opposing the administration's anti-immigration agenda, and       when I first spoke with him a few years ago, he reiterated those views. If       he has become something of an outcast, that testifies less to a       transformation in his thinking than to a broader realignment on the far       right. Bundy, in his relative ideological fixity, offers a stable reference       point against which to measure that shift.              In 2014, Bundy and his father, Cliven, marshaled about 1,000 militiamen and       other supporters to repel government agents trying to impound their cattle       in Bunkerville, Nevada. (Twenty years earlier, in an effort to protect the       endangered Mojave desert tortoise, the Bureau of Land Management had       ordered Cliven Bundy to remove his cattle from federal lands; he ignored       the directive. ) The standoff turned the Bundys into the first family of       the Patriot Movement and darlings of conservative media. They might not       have been quite at the Republican Party's ideological core, but they       weren't very far away from it. They were avatars of a conservative belief       in the importance of individual liberty and the righteousness of       resistance—even armed resistance, if necessary—to government tyranny. In a       Fox News poll asking thousands of viewers whether they were "Team Cliven       Bundy or Team Federal Government, " 97 percent answered "team Cliven. "       Several Republican U. S. Senators publicly defended the family. Sean       Hannity repeatedly had Cliven on his show.              Two years later, Ammon led a six-week occupation of the Malheur National       Wildlife Refuge in Oregon that left one rancher dead, shot down by police       officers after a backwoods car chase. From 2022 to 2023, he was embroiled       in a slow-motion standoff with local and state law enforcement in Idaho       stemming from his refusal to pay a $52 million judgment against him in a       high-profile defamation case.              By that point, the breadth of Bundy's support had substantially diminished.       His exploits no longer garnered the attention of Fox News and its       mainstream conservative viewership. And now, even some of his greatest       supporters—people whom he and his family inspired to become militants in       the first place—seem, in an ideological sense, to have deserted him. After       Good was shot and killed, I reached out to a number of those who stood with       Bundy at Bunkerville, at Malheur, or afterward. None of them would condemn       ICE, and some expressed enthusiastic support.              Robert F. Worth: Welcome to the American winter              When I asked Nick Ramlow, a Montana militant and member of Bundy's People's       Rights Network, about Good's killing, he referred me to a recent Supreme       Court opinion and stressed that "a jury will make a determination of       liability when a civil suit is brought. " In other words, Ramlow, who once       told a sheriff that he "better keep his nose clean" because Ramlow had "a       bigger army than he does, " didn't want to comment one way or the other       until the courts weighed in.              Eric Parker, who in 2014 made a name for himself by training a       semiautomatic rifle on federal agents at Bundy Ranch and who is now the       head of the Real Three Percenters of Idaho, had nothing but praise for the       agent who killed Good. "I mostly think it's important to note how       impressive it was to get those first two shots off in under a second, " he       told me, adding that Good's wife should be criminally charged (for what, he       did not say). Lee Rice, a longtime People's Rights member and steadfast       Bundy supporter who participated in the Oregon standoff, told me when I       first met him in 2023 that he didn't "believe in the government running       roughshod over you. " When I spoke with him recently about ICE's tactics in       Minnesota, he said, "I'm supportive of what's going on, because we need to       get these clowns out of here. " Good deserved her fate, he added, because       she'd sided with undocumented immigrants.              Some of those in Bundy's orbit have responded favorably to his essay and       video, and a few have changed their mind about ICE enforcement since the       killing of Pretti, which the Trump administration has tried to justify by              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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