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   Leroy N. Soetoro to All   
   Polling Brutal for Democrats on Immigrat   
   06 Feb 26 22:09:18   
   
   XPost: alt.propaganda.statistics, misc.immigration.usa, alt.poli   
   ics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics   
   From: leroysoetoro@americans-first.com   
      
   https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/02/02/surprise-polling-brutal-for-   
   democrats-on-immigration-enforcement-according-a-rated-pollster-n3811462   
      
   I was so surprised by this poll that I had to look into the pollster who   
   put it out just to be certain that it wasn't some fly-by-night propaganda   
   outlet.   
      
   It isn't. Several sites rate Cygnal Polling as having a slight liberal   
   bias in their results, but as a high-factuality pollster that focuses   
   mostly on private clients. And the results are so lopsided that they would   
   have had to stack the deck by a huge margin to get the results that they   
   did.   
      
   And the results are BRUTAL for Democrats, although they also tell us   
   something about the Democrat strategy for the midterms. They are focused   
   entirely on turning out their base and have decided to go all-in on the   
   strategy of mobilizing their base and exhausting the rest of the   
   population.   
      
      
   Brent Buchanan, Pollster   
   @brentbuc   
   ˇ   
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   When Democrats don't believe illegal immigration is a problem, why would   
   they have any desire to fix it?   
      
   https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAKsbbDWcAAZO8O?format=jpg&name=small   
      
   How brutal is the polling? Well, compared to the Ayatollah in Iran, they   
   may be able to claim more popularity with the general public, and it's   
   likely that people would rather have their city be declared a sanctuary   
   than get a case of Lyme Disease. Colonoscopies and root canals may be   
   considered less pleasant than being lectured to about morality by Chuck   
   Schumer, but few other things are.   
      
   https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/ha/images/2026/33/0cabb8a8-a479-457d-   
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   According to Cygnal's Brent Buchanon, Democrats are "catastrophically   
   wrong" on the immigration issue, although I am not so certain. Not that he   
   is misanalyzing the numbers, but perhaps on whether the Democrats are   
   mistaken on their strategy.   
      
   68% of Democrats want to defund ICE. 58% of all voters oppose that. If   
   you're looking for the single biggest electoral blindspot in American   
   politics right now, you just found it.   
      
   Cygnal just conducted a nationwide survey of midterm voters to see where   
   things really stood on the issue of deportation, ICE, and immigration.   
      
   And I've never seen a major party this far out of step with the electorate   
   on a single issue.   
      
   The conventional wisdom in Washington says immigration is a "complicated"   
   issue where "reasonable people disagree." The media frames it as a debate   
   between compassion and cruelty. Democratic strategists apparently believe   
   their base's position is where the country is heading.   
      
   The data says they're wrong. Catastrophically wrong.   
      
   I am a bit surprised by the numbers, but hardly shocked. I knew that   
   "defund ICE" would be unpopular with the general public, but I expected   
   that enough people would be tired of the chaos that many would be driven   
   by exhaustion or fear of social opprobrium, making the number worse.   
      
   Let's start with deportation. 61% of midterm voters support it. 67% of   
   Democrats oppose it. That's a massive chasm between most people and where   
   the Democrats are.   
      
   64% of voters believe illegal immigration is a problem. 61% of Democrats   
   say it isn't. Same pattern.   
      
   Even the definition of "illegal" splits along party lines in ways that   
   should alarm anyone running a Democratic campaign. 73% of midterm voters   
   say coming to the U.S. without permission means you broke the law. 45% of   
   Democrats disagree with that basic premise.   
      
   I suspect that a lot of this has to do with the Pravda Media audience now   
   skews so Democrat that the ordinary person consumes or trusts so little of   
   the propaganda that it is becoming ineffective. There are people who   
   eagerly consume newspaper Op/Eds, watch CNN, believe The New York Times,   
   and then everybody else.   
      
   We only see "everybody else" on X, if that. Most people aren't even on X;   
   they just want the activists to enjoy the tear gas.   
      
   54% of voters support ICE's enforcement efforts. Among swing voters? 59%.   
   These are the people who decide elections, and they're overwhelmingly   
   siding with enforcement...and the Republican position.   
      
   Yet 81% of Democrats oppose ICE enforcing federal immigration laws to   
   remove illegal immigrants from the U.S. The gap between the Democratic   
   base and swing voters on this issue is net 43 points. In a polarized era   
   where most issues split along predictable lines, that kind of spread is   
   extraordinary.   
      
   Where I diverge from Buchanan is in his conclusion from examining these   
   numbers. He believes that they are electorally devastating, while I am not   
   so sure.   
      
   The results of Democrats' position on the deportation issue are   
   electorally devastating.   
      
   Democrats currently hold a nominal lead on the generic congressional   
   ballot. Standard stuff for the out-party. But when we frame the question   
   around supporting ICE's ability to enforce federal immigration laws, and a   
   Democrat opposes that, the ballot instantly ties (4-point shift).   
      
   Push it one step further. If Democrats force a government shutdown over   
   ICE funding, which is exactly what started today, Republicans take a 2-   
   point lead.   
      
   That's a 6-point swing on a single issue. In competitive districts, that's   
   the difference between winning and losing.   
      
   I hope he is right, but there is an alternate theory of the case, and one   
   that I think Democrats are banking on: that the chaos, which I predict   
   will escalate dramatically as the weather warms up, will increase voter   
   participation among Democrats and depress it among Republicans and   
   moderates.   
      
      
   Stephen L. Miller   
   @redsteeze   
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   This poll was taken on stolen land.   
      
   https://x.com/guypbenson/status/2018347207812882774/photo/1   
      
   Democrats looked at the off-year elections, which sucked for Republicans   
   in 2025, and think: if we can mobilize our base through propaganda and get   
   them to believe they are on a crusade, we can swamp the polls through   
   turnout. Democrats can get Jay Jones elected, which is a miracle, so   
   "approval" in the general public is not the metric that matters.   
      
      
   Rapid Response 47   
      
   @RapidResponse47   
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   NEW POLL:   
      
   ??? 73% say coming here illegally is breaking the law.   
      
   ??? 61% support deporting illegals.   
      
   ??? 58% oppose defunding ICE.   
      
   ??? 54% support ICE enforcing our immigration laws.   
      
   https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAK2_axWMAAvkSB?format=jpg&name=240x240   
      
   Your average Democrat believes that the dark night of fascism is upon us.   
   AWFLs are taking to TikTok proudly demonstrating that they are willing to   
   sacrifice their own children to fight Bad Orange Man, so they surely will   
   show up to the polls and drag every homeless person along with them.   
      
   Will Republicans and especially moderates do the same? Perhaps, but more   
      
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