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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: X@Y.com              Hungary’s real pedophilia problem has nothing to do with ‘gay content’                      Child sex abuse within families or the Catholic Church is usually a taboo       subject in Hungary. Pedophilia is an import from a degenerating West,       government supporters say, as the ruling Fidesz party rolls out a new law       its critics say wrongly targets LGBT+ people and misses real issues of       child abuse.              To an international chorus of alarm, the Hungarian government last week       passed a law that bans content aimed at the under-18s which is deemed by       the authorities to “promote” homosexuality, be it in schools, on TV or       advertisements.               Imitating Russia, Hungary bans ‘gay’ content – and that includes        rainbow flags Fudan Budapest is not the answer to Hungary’s higher        education needs Five inspiring Roma figures from emerging Europe              Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó has said the law was only aimed at       pedophiles. “The law protects the children in a way that it makes it an       exclusive right of parents to educate their kids regarding sexual       orientation until the age of 18,” he said. “This law doesn’t say anything       about the sexual orientation of adults.”              “We will not apologise for protecting our children,” added State Secretary       Zoltán Kovács, who is responsible for government propaganda abroad.              The law’s critics however say it will further alienate and isolate an       already beleaguered LGBT+ community in Hungary, while also pushing       Budapest further towards the “illiberal democracy” its prime minister,       Viktor Orbán, has long said he wants to create.              There is no similar law anywhere in the EU that is so hostile to lesbians,       gays, bisexuals and transgender people, Luca Dudits, an executive board       member with the Háttér Society, a Budapest-based LGBT rights group, told       The Associated Press.              President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen said she would       use all her powers to force Hungary to reverse the law.              “This Hungarian bill is a shame,” von der Leyen said in a statement. “This       bill clearly discriminates against people based on their sexual       orientation. It goes against the fundamental values of the European Union:       human dignity, equality and respect for human rights.” A political ploy?              Some have called the new law a cynical move to shore up support for       Orbán’s ruling Fidesz’s party ahead of parliamentary elections in 2022.       Opinion polls indicate that a newly united opposition is now running neck       and neck with Fidesz.              During Europe’s refugee crisis of 2015, surveys showed that about 60 per       cent of Hungarians by and large shared the government’s hardline stance on       refugees.              The same now seems to apply to ‘gender’. European Social Survey data show       that public opinion in Central and Eastern Europe is far more negative       towards the issue than in Western Europe.              “During the pandemic it has become clear that when the government needs a       popularity boost or just some distraction, they propose something       homophobic, because their voters can relate to it,” Péter Urfi, a       journalist who has written widely on sexual abuse in the church in       Hungary, tells Emerging Europe.              Interestingly however, Hungarians are much less religious than Poles and       proposals to limit abortion rights have gained little traction. The       government has therefore needed to narrow its ‘gender ideology’ campaign       to sexual minorities.              The first likely target of the new law is Budapest’s Pride March,       scheduled for late July, which the authorities may now try to ban. Some       believe this was the reason for parliament’s haste in voting through the       bill. ‘Anti-gender ideology’ as a political weapon              In May, Poland and Hungary joined forces to seek the removal of the phrase       “gender equality” from a declaration on advancing social cohesion in the       EU.              Orbán said “gender” was an “ideologically motivated expression”.              The term “társadalmi nem” (social sex) exists in Hungarian, but the word       “gender” does not. As such, using the English word is seemingly very       useful for those who want to demonise it.              In 2018, university programmes in gender studies were banned in Hungary.       “It is an ideology, not a science”, was the government’s reasoning.              On May 5, 2020, parliament blocked ratification of a regional treaty on       violence against women, the Istanbul Convention. Hungary’s justice       minister, Judit Varga, argued that national laws already protected female       victims of violence.              Also in May 2020, parliament fast-tracked a law that made it impossible       for people to change the sex recorded on their birth certificates and       identification documents. Not our problem              András Veres, president of the Conference of Hungarian Bishops, has played       down the problem of child sexual abuse in Hungary and pointed to the       rarity of such cases in the country, which, he said, may spring from the       “special culture of Hungarians, which is family-centric”.              But Hungary, as elsewhere, clearly does have a problem.              Viola Szlankó, UNICEF Hungary’s child rights expert, says that about 10       per cent of children are at risk in some way in the country, around       170,000 children. Child protection services estimated the number of       victims around 7-8,000 in 2019, but experts are also reluctant to give       figures due to high levels of non-reporting.              Fidesz State Secretary Csaba Dömötör said this week that “pedophiles won’t       be able to hide any more”. But many believe a key hiding place is in fact       the church.              Urfi says the Hungarian church has not initiated a formal investigation       into the problem.              “The Hungarian bishops have chosen the path of silence so far,” he says.       “However, the 10 to 20 harassment cases that came to light did not provoke       immense public outrage, partly because until that week [August 2019] there       was not one victim that stood up with their name and face to tell their       stories.”              He is referring to Attila Peto, a former seminary student, who gave an       interview on Partizán – a politics and culture TV show – detailing his       abuse at the hands of a priest. On August 20, 2019, as Hungary was       celebrating St Stephen’s Day, Peto was taken to a district police station       in Budapest on trumped-up charges, where he was held until 7pm, the moment       Hungary’s Cardinal Péter Erdo finished giving a special mass on the       national holiday in the presence of Orbán and President János Áder.              The police later dropped their investigation of Peto for lack of evidence.              “For some observers it’s clearly more than a coincidence that this police       action took place on this special day,” adds Urfi.              “I fear child sex abuse is ongoing in every country, and not just in the       Catholic Church. The new thing is, that it became a scandal in Hungary, 15              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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