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|    [Spam] Fetterman lone Democrat to suppor    |
|    14 Feb 26 01:32:01    |
      XPost: alt.politics.democrats.senate, pa.politics, alt.politics.republicans       XPost: sac.politics, alt.law-enforcement       From: pkrugman@soros.org              A shutdown for the Department of Homeland Security appeared certain       Thursday as lawmakers in the House and Senate were set to leave       Washington for a 10-day break and negotiations with the White House over       Democrats' demands for new restrictions had stalled.              Pennsylvania's John Fetterman was the only Democrat to vote in favor of       advancing a bill that would have provided a year's worth of funding to       the agency. By a vote of 52 to 47, the bill failed to meet a 60-vote       margin required to move forward. That made a Friday-night shutdown of       numerous DHS agencies, including those that oversee airline safety and       emergency relief efforts, all but certain.              Fetterman's vote came as little surprise: He has long said he opposes       bills that would shut down the government. And while he has previously       said that DHS Secretary Kristi Noem should resign, he has generally       refrained from sharply criticizing federal immigration officers, instead       praising their work to secure the border.              Fetterman's office did not respond to a WESA request for comment on his       vote. But prior to the vote, he briefly took part in a Senate committee       hearing to discuss the issue with DHS officials.              Fetterman noted that the 2025 "Big Beautiful Bill" contained $75 billion       in funding for the office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.              "That vote to shut DHS down will have no functional impact on ICE       because they have that $75 billion for the big beautiful bill," he said.       But the vote against funding would mean "you're going to punish all of       these other parts — the very important parts — of our government," such       as the Coast Guard, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and       cybersecurity operations.              Fetterman has generally refused to join other Democrats in criticizing       the tactics of federal immigration officers, even in the wake of fatal       shootings of American citizens by those officers in Minneapolis. He has       also been silent about the detention of immigrants who have settled into       communities in Western Pennsylvania, while his Republican colleague,       Dave McCormick, has acknowledged that there are concerns about the       moves.              During Thursday's committee hearing, Fetterman did express some concern       that the tactics seen in Minneapolis "makes the public unsafe, the       agents unsafe. ... I think they've lost the plot," when they should       focus on border security and immigrants with criminal records. But he       also faulted left-leaning critics of Noem, faulting them for "sexist       terms like 'ICE Barbie,'" and saying that Democrats were "failing on the       border" under former President Joe Biden.              Democrats and the White House have traded offers in recent days as the       Democrats have said they want curbs on President Donald Trump’s broad       campaign of immigration enforcement. They have demanded better       identification for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other       federal law enforcement officers, a new code of conduct for those       agencies and more use of judicial warrants, among other requests.              The White House sent its latest proposal late Wednesday, but Trump told       reporters on Thursday that some of the Democratic demands would be       “very, very hard to approve.”              Democrats said the White House offer, which was not made public, did not       include sufficient curbs on ICE after two protesters were fatally shot       last month. The offer was “not serious,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck       Schumer of New York said Thursday, after the Senate rejected a bill to       fund the department.              Americans want accountability and “an end to the chaos,” Schumer said.       “The White House and congressional Republicans must listen and deliver.”              Lawmakers in both chambers were on notice to return to Washington if the       two sides struck a deal to end the expected shutdown. Sen. Patty Murray,       the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, told reporters       that Democrats would send the White House a counterproposal over the       weekend.              Impact of a shutdown       Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said after the vote that a       shutdown appeared likely and “the people who are not going to be getting       paychecks" will pay the price.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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