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   Moshe Fishman to All   
   How Progressives Lie About The SAVE Act    
   14 Feb 26 17:58:10   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: copykat4@insite.net   
      
   The progressives have opposed voter registration and   
   accountability for many years. Here is a list of the myths   
   they use to defend their points.   
      
   Myth vs. Fact: The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility   
   Act (H.R. 22/S.128)   
      
   https://heritageaction.com/blog/myth-vs-fact-the-   
   safeguard-american-voter-eligibility-act-h-r-22-s-128   
      
   'The right to vote in a free and fair election is   
   fundamental to our democratic republic, and Congress   
   should ensure Americans? voices at the ballot box are not   
   diluted by the ballots of illegal aliens and other   
   noncitizens.   
      
   The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act   
   strengthens the integrity of our elections by closing a   
   loophole and requiring individuals to provide documentary   
   proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in   
   federal elections.   
      
   Every state requires an individual to be a citizen to   
   register and vote in state and federal elections, and it?s   
   a felony to falsely claim to be a citizen for any purpose   
   (including to register to vote or to actually vote). It?s   
   also a federal misdemeanor violation for an alien to vote.   
   And yet, there is no universal requirement for states to   
   obtain proof of citizenship to enforce that prerequisite.   
   Worse, interpretation of the National Voter Registration   
   Act (NVRA) has been exploited to actually prevent states   
   from requiring proof of citizenship.   
      
   The SAVE Act amends the NVRA to require states to obtain   
   proof of both U.S. citizenship and identity when   
   registering an individual to vote in a federal election.   
   Further, the bill requires agencies like the Department of   
   Homeland Security (DHS) and the Social Security   
   Administration to respond to state inquiries on the status   
   of someone?s citizenship and eligibility to vote. Agencies   
   like DHS under the Biden administration have notoriously   
   tied up these inquiries in red tape. Now, they will have a   
   24-hour deadline to respond to states that want to verify   
   citizenship.   
      
   This legislation is simple, widely supported by the   
   American people, and received bipartisan support when the   
   House voted on the bill in the 118th Congress.   
      
   Unfortunately, the Left has been making a number of false   
   claims about what the bill would do.   
      
   Myth #1: The SAVE Act would make it difficult - or even   
   impossible - for married women who have changed their last   
   name to register to vote. The SAVE Act makes no mention of   
   being able to show a marriage certificate or change-of-   
   name documentation.   
      
   Reality: This is the same argument the Left pulled out   
   twenty years ago when states began implementing voter ID   
   laws, and that didn?t happen. There are multiple types of   
   documents that can be used to prove citizenship. But, most   
   notably, what critics won?t admit is that there is a   
   provision addressing a process in case of certain   
   discrepancies in documentation:   
      
   ?...each State shall establish a process under which an   
   applicant can provide such additional documentation to the   
   appropriate election official of the State as may be   
   necessary to establish that the applicant is a citizen of   
   the United States in the event of a discrepancy with   
   respect to the applicant?s documentary proof of United   
   States citizenship.?   
   This means every state will have to have a process, and if   
   there is a change of name - but the applicant is the same   
   person - the state has to accept the application.   
      
   Myth #2: Many lawful Americans would not have the correct   
   documentation to register under the SAVE Act, and that   
   most voters could not use their driver's license ? even   
   REAL IDs ? for registration.   
      
   Reality: The irony is that the Left is also attacking   
   proposed state legislation that would require whether or   
   not a person is a citizen to be listed on a driver's   
   license. For states that do this, it will make IDs easily   
   prove citizenship. However, even in cases where someone   
   has a driver's license that doesn?t comply with REAL ID,   
   there are multiple types of documents they can use to   
   register to vote.   
      
   Myth #3: The SAVE Act would put a significant   
   administrative and financial burden on states to   
   implement, and overwhelm election offices by eliminating   
   automatic voter registration at state agencies like the   
   DMV.   
      
   Reality: Election officials already have a duty to   
   determine a voter?s eligibility when they register them to   
   vote. They have a responsibility to determine whether an   
   applicant is an eligible resident of the state, as well as   
   a citizen. If someone provides proof of citizenship, it   
   actually makes it easier for them to do their job.   
      
   Myth #4 Election officials could go to jail for helping a   
   citizen register to vote simply just for having incorrect   
   documentation.   
      
   Reality: Every state has laws, in addition to the federal   
   Voting Rights Act of 1965 (VRA), that places a burden on   
   election officials to register eligible voters. All this   
   bill says is that if an election official doesn?t require   
   proof of citizenship, and allows someone to register, they   
   have violated federal law. This is no different than   
   current law under the NVRA and VRA that says if an   
   election official knows that someone is dead, doesn?t live   
   where they claim, or is somehow eligible and helps them   
   register ? they have committed a criminal violation of the   
   law. This is a common-sense requirement to ensure the law   
   is followed.   
      
   Myth #5: Arizona and Kansas have already tried a ?version?   
   of the SAVE Act that was struck down in court. In Kansas,   
   the law was struck down altogether, and in Arizona, the   
   state was barred from applying its law to federal ballots.   
      
   Reality: Kansas and Arizona illustrate why this bill is   
   needed. The federal courts threw out these state laws   
   because they said the NVRA did not permit states to verify   
   citizenship. The SAVE amends the NVRA to say explicitly   
   that states must require proof of citizenship.   
      
   Myth #6: This would remove legitimate voters from the   
   rolls based on faulty data, and disenfranchise voters.   
      
   Reality: Every state when it receives information that   
   someone may no longer be eligible to vote ? they died,   
   moved out of state, are not a citizen ? begins by   
   investigating and contacting the voter. They do not remove   
   the voter from the rolls unless they get confirmation that   
   the person is ineligible to vote.   
      
    In addition, in 2002, Congress passed the Help America   
   Vote Act (HAVA), which enacted a requirement ensuring that   
   individuals mistakenly removed from the rolls have an   
   opportunity to vote.   
      
   If someone shows up at their precinct, and they are not on   
   the rolls (but say they are eligible and registered),   
   election officials must provide them with a provisional   
   ballot. That person votes, and election officials have to   
   investigate.   
      
   If they made a mistake and the individual IS eligible to   
      
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