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|    Leroy N. Soetoro to All    |
|    NYT: The Epstein Light Grenade Hits Acad    |
|    19 Feb 26 22:27:18    |
      XPost: alt.education, alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.republicans       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics       From: leroysoetoro@americans-first.com              https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2026/02/16/nyt-the-epstein-light-grenade-       hits-academia-n3811940              Couldn't happen to a more deserving institution. But even in the Ivy       League, it may still look more like Salem 1692 than actual justice.              Now that the Department of Justice has published files from all of the       investigations into Jeffrey Epstein, including a list of notable       correspondents and others connected to the sex offender, certain patterns       have become apparent. One big pattern is that people like money, and they       like to flatter people with money in hopes of getting it for themselves.       And who likes money most?              Well, politicians, but we knew that. Running a close second, however, are       university administrators and researchers. It turns out that Larry Summers       was hardly unique in Academia, according to the New York Times, although       others in the Ivy League may not have asked Epstein for seduction advice:              America’s colleges and universities are chronically searching for money, a       reality that brought academic leaders and researchers into both Jeffrey       Epstein’s orbit and his inbox. The schools had the prestige to lend him       legitimacy. Mr. Epstein had the money to bankroll projects.              It worked well for some, until it didn’t.              Mr. Epstein, who in 2019 died by suicide in the jail where he was being       held on sex trafficking charges, gave money, or simply dangled the       prospect of it, before people on a range of campuses, including Harvard,       M.I.T., Stanford, Bard College and Columbia.              Some schools have spent years trying to distance themselves from Mr.       Epstein, donating his contributions and condemning his crimes. But recent       document releases from the Justice Department have prompted new       recriminations and regrets.              Many academics whose names appear within the Epstein files say they turned       to him only because of his money and the possibility that it could       underwrite college budgets and research efforts — even if their exchanges       came after Mr. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting prostitution       from a minor.              Not for the first time, I am reminded of the Light Grenade from the       terrible film Mom and Dad Save the World, which makes anyone who picks it       up disappear. The actor Jeffrey Jones got professionally disappeared in a       context not far removed from the same kind of issues surrounding Jeffrey       Epstein, ironically, but that's not the point. The Epstein Files and       Epstein's money are the Light Grenades here, and those who attempt to use       either or both are now starting to get disappeared too:              https://youtu.be/xTj9jYCiOlw              Jones' professional cratering was well deserved. So too was Summers', who       didn't just engage in fundraising contacts with Epstein but asked a       convicted sex offender to help Summers get a young female protegé       "horizontal." However, it's not clear that this is true for all of the       academics appearing on the Epstein Files list. Most of them went looking       for just the money. While sucking up to a convicted sex offender for       funding the education of young adults is questionable, it is not at all       the same as participating in crimes.              There is an element of complicity in Epstein's attempts to rehab his       image, however. The NYT notes that Epstein almost certainly used his money       to force money-hungry academics to participate in that effort:              Mr. Botstein said in 2023 that Mr. Epstein “enjoyed humiliating and       dangling prospects” and had “absolutely strung me along.” Others have       wondered whether he luxuriated in conversations with some of the world’s       brightest minds. Many also believe that Mr. Epstein sought to leverage       academia’s reputation to clean up his own.              For example, a Harvard professor, whose program received millions from Mr.       Epstein, greenlit proposals made by the financier’s publicist to feature       Mr. Epstein on a university website. In a report Harvard issued in 2020,       the university said the requests “appeared to be part of a larger effort       to rehabilitate” Mr. Epstein’s image. (The university also noted that Mr.       Epstein’s foundation’s website overstated its gifts to Harvard by tens of       millions of dollars.)              “Having one of these universities as part of your philanthropic portfolio       adds a tremendous amount of credibility, and I think that’s what a       university should be worried about: Is an unsavory character using me to       whitewash a lifestyle?" said Nicholas S. Zeppos, a former Vanderbilt       University chancellor.              Well ... duh. But as Dean Martin (Ned Beatty) said in Back to School, in       Harvard's defense ... it was a really big check:              https://youtu.be/Yo1-WdxQnK8              The problem is that not everyone's contact with Epstein was equally       malign, or even in the same class as Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton in the       Tubba Bubba shot, or even Summers. Most of these were normal       business/social contacts among the elites, which certainly can be       criticized but hardly warrant professional death penalties. Joe Nocera       writes about the Salem 1692 quality of the spiraling public fallout at the       Free Press, where even a mention in the files brings assumptions of       participation in Epstein's crimes:               I’ve been appalled by the way so many people in public life—people like       former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers—remained close to him, undeterred       by the knowledge of his past conviction. In fact, what is most appalling       is the realization that some of these people likely knew what he was still       doing, post-prison, with the young girls he solicited for “massages.”       Writer Michael Wolff and former Obama administration lawyer Kathryn       Ruemmler went so far as to strategize with Epstein in the months before he       was arrested in 2019. On Thursday, Ruemmler resigned as Goldman Sachs’       general counsel, a position she had held since 2020. Some Epstein fallout       is well-deserved.              But there is also a degree of hysteria that has overtaken the coverage of       the Epstein files. Anyone—literally anyone—who is mentioned, no matter       what the context, is assumed to be an Epstein friend, and thus worthy of       scorn or worse.              Scorn is fine. Professional destruction is another thing entirely. Nocera       agrees:              Distinctions between the truly culpable and those who are merely       bystanders are being lost in the lust to point fingers. Epstein was a       terrible criminal, but not everyone he came in contact with should have       their lives upended because they once knew him or Maxwell. It’s time to       restore some sanity to the “Epstein fallout.”              Well, why hasn't sanity prevailed all along? Because people want to use       the Epstein files in the same way others wanted to use Epstein himself –       for their own ambitions and purposes. They have stoked the witch hunt in       the expectation that their opponents would get strung up on the figurative              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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