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   From: yak@inbox.com   
      
   On 2/18/21 12:36 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:   
   > On 2/18/21 10:29 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >> By Dionne Searcey   
   >>   
   >>      Published Feb. 17, 2021Updated Feb. 18, 2021, 8:45 a.m. ET   
   >>   
   >> As his state was racked by an electricity crisis that left millions of   
   >> people without heat in frigid temperatures, the governor of Texas took   
   >> to television to start placing blame.   
   >>   
   >> His main target was renewable energy, suggesting that the systemwide   
   >> collapse was caused by the failure of wind and solar power.   
   >   
   >   
   > Was it the *Global Warming FAKE science* that told us we were NOT   
   > getting colder but that we were getting WARMER?   
   >   
   >   
   > Looks like it was a lie from the Democrats science.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> “It just shows that fossil fuel is necessary for the state of Texas as   
   >> well as other states to make sure we will be able to heat our homes in   
   >> the winter times and cool our homes in the summer times,” said Gov. Greg   
   >> Abbott, speaking on Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News. Other conservative   
   >> talk-show hosts had already picked up the theme.   
   >   
   > The voice of reason.... coal and oil and recycling wood and other fuels   
   > along with nuclear and nat-gas or geo thermal is the solution and   
   > killing the Keystone Pipeline is the Democrats NON-science at work.   
   >   
   > Oil wells drill deep and it's hot when they go that deep, so why NOT use   
   > the old oil wells as thermal energy?   
   >   
   >>   
   >> However, wind power was not chiefly to blame for the Texas blackouts.   
   >> The main problem was frigid temperatures that stalled natural gas   
   >> production, which is responsible for the majority of Texas’ power   
   >> supply. Wind makes up just a fraction — 7 percent or so, by some   
   >> estimates — of the state’s overall mix of power generation this time of   
   >> year.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Democrats who boast that wind can solve the problems of CO2 are saying   
   > that only 7% of Texas power comes from wind?   
   >   
   > That neither says that we should have more wind power or that wind power   
   > is likely to be built in a quantity needed to keep up with the people   
   > leaving California and NY and moving to Texas.   
   >   
   > What it suggests is that expensive wind/solar electric put on the grid   
   > is NOT a solution but instead creates new weakness.   
   >   
   >   
   >> As frigid weather grips the center of the nation, causing widespread   
   >> power outages, freezing temperatures, slippery roads and weather-related   
   >> deaths,   
   >   
   > Again I ask where the GLOBAL WARMING is?   
   > Having told us that we are warming, why was there an ice storm and   
   > severe cold that did this when we're warming and in a panic to stop the   
   > warming?  It's NOT like it wasn't warm in Texas during the dust bowl but   
   > why is it after all these years of warming the ice and cold was worse   
   > than it was in the past.   
   >   
   >   
   >> Governor Abbott’s voice was among the most prominent in a chorus   
   >> of political figures this week to quickly assert that green energy   
   >> sources such as wind and solar were contributing to the blackouts. The   
   >> talking points, coming largely from conservatives, reinvigorated a   
   >> long-running campaign to claim that emissions-spewing fossil fuels are   
   >> too valuable a resource to give up.   
   >>   
   >   
   > NO but when you talk about freezing to death, maybe a nuclear power   
   > plant is more practical. maybe planting trees for fire wood, or   
   > hardening the the wind power against the ice and cold that comes with   
   > global warming ;) or maybe just drop the BIG LIE THAT WE'RE SEEING   
   > GLOBAL WARMING that's man made or made by man's use of fossil fuel.   
   >   
   > So far there's no proof that fossil fuel use has warmed the planet.  And   
   > the ICE on the wind mills is sort of a lie detector isn't it?   
   >   
   >   
   > Are we supposed to believe the DEMOCRATS NON-SCIENCE, or do we believe   
   > our lying eyes?   
   >   
   >   
   >> The efforts came despite the fact that the burning of fossil fuels —   
   >> which causes climate change by releasing vast amounts of planet-warming   
   >> carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere —   
   >   
   > Volcanoes belch more CO2 than humans do.   
   >   
   >> -is helping to drive the   
   >> phenomenon of increasingly dangerous hurricanes and other storms, as   
   >> well as unusual weather patterns.   
   >   
   > You're making my point that the planet adapts to current inputs...  but   
   > you still can't say that the cause is humans burning fossil fuels.   
   >   
   > Without any concrete proof that this is a FACT....  the problem is that   
   > this reality flies in the face of the FAKE NARRATIVE from the LEFT that   
   > CO2 from fossil fuels is warming the planet. And in Fact the planet has   
   > it's own living biologic system that will dynamically change the planets   
   > biology to stop or reduce any heating and seek a balance.   How else   
   > could we have such a steady climate?   
   >   
   >>   
   >> “Green energy failure” read the banner on the bottom of the screen of   
   >> Fox News stories about power outages. Social media posts mocked   
   >> renewable energy as “unreliables.” A Wall Street Journal editorial   
   >> called for more reliance on coal to help endure frigid temperatures.   
   >> Some politicians and analysts spread lies and disinformation to advance   
   >> their defense of fossil fuels.   
   >   
   > Here we are at the actual problem, Democrats want what they want and the   
   > science is irrelevant to them.  NO one bitches about the Hoover Dam.   
   > It's renewable and the science suggests that the hydro electric is   
   > mostly reliable and wind/solar aren't.   
   >   
   > I don't hear anyone saying not to use wind/solar but what they say is   
   > that wind/solar have their place and their limits.   
   >   
   > I suggested that they put wind power or solar power near the Hoover damn   
   > and use the solar/wind when available to pump water up to the top of the   
   > dam form the turbine outlet pool to recycle the water by lifting it and   
   > storing the kinetic energy at the top of the dam in the lake.   
   >   
   > That is a better use and then when the dam is full they can dump an   
   > power that was running pumps to pump water onto the grid.   
   >   
   >> “Every time we have challenges with the grid, whether it’s in California   
   >> this past summer or Texas right now, people try to weaponize this for   
   >> their pet project, which is fossil fuels,” said Leah Stokes, an   
   >> assistant professor of political science at the University of   
   >> California, Santa Barbara, whose work has focused on battles over energy   
   >> policy. “Our infrastructure cannot handle extreme weather events, which   
      
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