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   Message 42,967 of 44,666   
   Ken to Rudy Canoza   
   Re: How we know there are racist depicti   
   04 Mar 21 06:51:45   
   
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   From: Ken@invalid.com   
      
   Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   > Because Hartung says there aren't any.   
   >   
   > "And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street" depicts an "Asian"   
   > wearing a conical hat and having slits for eyes.  "If I Ran the Zoo"   
   > depicts African men barefoot and shirtless wearing grass skirts.  These   
   > are racist stereotypes. They are caricatures that are how white   
   > Americans historically were conditioned to view people from "exotic"   
   > places.   
   >   
   > For Hartung to say these are not racist has only two possible   
   > explanations.  One is that he understands full well that they are   
   > racist, and he is lying in saying there are no racist depictions.  The   
   > other is that Hartung is so thoroughly a product of his racist   
   > upbringing and surroundings that he sees these racist depictions as   
   > normal, and so is incapable of seeing the racism in them.  Being a   
   > racist, he is blind to racism.   
   >   
   > One of the things being said by white apologists for racism in this Dr.   
   > Seuss flap is that most Seuss characters aren't even human.  The   
   > problem, of course, is that 98% of those that are human are white and   
   > "normal," and the few that aren't are mostly racist caricatures.   
   >   
   >     In 2019, a study from the University of California at San Diego and the   
   >     Conscious Kid Library analyzed 50 Dr. Seuss books and found that 98   
   > percent   
   >     of the human characters represented were White. The few characters   
   > of color   
   >     showed characteristics of Orientalism and anti-Blackness, the   
   > researchers   
   >     found.   
   >   
   >     “Males of color are only presented in subservient, exotified, or   
   > dehumanized   
   >     roles. This also remains true in their relation to White   
   > characters,” the   
   >     study reads. “Most startling is the complete invisibility and   
   > absence of   
   >     women and girls of color across Seuss’ entire children’s book   
   > collection.”   
   >   
   >   
   > https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/03/02/dr-seuss-racist-imagery/   
   >   
   >   
   > One thing we know for sure:  the books have not been "banned" by any   
   > school district.  Anyone saying that they have been is a liar.   
      
   I always thought your mental level was low and about that of a child,   
   but complaining about Dr. Seuss proves it.  What is next?  Mother Goose??   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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