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   Bill Flett to All   
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   18 Mar 21 16:54:52   
   
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   On 3/18/2021 4:28 PM, P+Barker wrote:   
   > On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:06:56 -0700, Bill Flett    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 3/18/2021 4:46 AM, P+Barker wrote:   
   >>>    Bill Flett  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 3/17/2021 3:06 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>>> On 3/17/2021 1:24 PM, Bill Flett wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> It isn't.  The *real* rationale behind voter ID laws, as opposed to   
   the fake   
   >>>>>> (smokescreen) reason, is transparently racist.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (sarcastically)  Because only whites want voter ID laws, and   
   >>>>> blacks are the only race who can't obey them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is a straw man, and in fact, is indicative of your racism.  No one,   
   but   
   >>>> you, has said or suggested that blacks are innately incapable of   
   following the   
   >>>> law.  The issue is that it is logistically harder for poor people to get   
   the ID,   
   >>>> and poor people are disproportionately black.  The overrepresentation of   
   blacks   
   >>>> among poor people is something Republiscum elections strategists know,   
   and they   
   >>>> craft policy around it.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Poor people have lower mobility than higher income people.  They also   
   tend not   
   >>>> to have the legal documents required in order to apply for the ID.    
   Blacks are   
   >>>> disproportionately represented among poor people due in significant   
   measure to   
   >>>> past discrimination by people like Hansen and Hartung.  As a result,   
   blacks on   
   >>>> average have a harder time getting the ID — not due to any innate   
   defects among   
   >>>> blacks, as Hansen suggests (and believes), but because of their   
   circumstances, a   
   >>>> good part of which are cause by Hansen and Hartung.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As if that isn't bad enough, Hansen and Hartung then *increase* the   
   height of   
   >>>> the hurdle by purposely locating the offices that issue the ID far from   
   black   
   >>>> population center, and by severely limiting their hours.  All of this is   
   by   
   >>>> design, knowing that it will tend to reduce the number of black voters.    
   Blacks   
   >>>> tend to vote Democratic.  Hansen and Hartung know this, and they want to   
   reduce   
   >>>> black voting.  Hence the creation of hurdles to voting that   
   disproportionately   
   >>>> affect blacks, thanks to Hansen's and Hartung's historical    
   iscrimination, and   
   >>>> which they then enhance by fucking around with the state ID issuance   
   offices.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hansen and Hartung know all this.  When Hansen suggests that it is the   
   opponents   
   >>>> of voter ID who are the racists, he is being disingenuous and cynical.    
   He's   
   >>>> claiming they believe something about blacks' innate abilities that the   
   >>>> opponents do not believe.  Instead, it is Hansen and Hartung who believe   
   that   
   >>>> blacks are innately incapable of doing things that whites on average can   
   do.   
   >>>> What Hansen and Hartung are doing is attempting to project their own   
   racism onto   
   >>>> their opponents.  It fails.   
   >>>   
   >>> What a bunch of hogwash.   
   >>   
   >> Nope.   
   >>   
   >>> I have an easy solution.   
   >>>   
   >>> Have a rotating ID issuing office   
   >>   
   >> No.  There will be permanent ID issuing offices, and lots of them.  In poor   
   >> neighborhoods, there will be more of them.  They will have generous hours   
   —   
   >> 7:00am to 7:00pm, no closure for lunch.  If anyone has difficulty supplying   
   the   
   >> required documentation to get the ID, the staff in the office will help   
   them try   
   >> to get it at no extra cost.   
   >   
   > No one wants to open offices in the hood.   
      
   Not talking about that.   
      
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