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|    No Self-Respecting American Should Aspir    |
|    11 Aug 21 14:00:39    |
      XPost: alt.atheism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.republican       XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.trump, alt.religio       .christian.roman-catholic       XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.republicans       XPost: talk.politics.guns       From: js@phendrie.con              Extolling the virtues of Viktor Orbán's culture war over a sumptuous meal in       Budapest is next-level cognitive dissonance.              Matt Welch | 8.11.2021 1:13 PM              Though much of the great August 2021 debate over the aspirational role Viktor       Orbán's Hungary plays in America's still-fermenting National Conservative       movement has amounted to a willful misconflation of politics with policy, it's       still worth lingering for a moment on Tucker Carlson's fondness for Magyar       architecture.              "Here's what I like about the landscape of Hungary, a few Soviet remnants       notwithstanding," the top-rated cable news anchor said in a speech Saturday.       "It's pretty. It is pretty, the buildings are pretty, the architecture uplifts.       So this is another third rail in American politics: You're not allowed to note       that our buildings are grotesque and dehumanizing. Why are they bad? Because       they are ugly, and ugly dehumanizes us…'dehumanizing' is the act of       convincing       people that they don't matter, that they're less significant in the larger       whole."              Well, about that. Budapest—and the nearby upstream cliffside town of       Esztergom,       where the Fox News host was delivering his remarks—are indeed lovely to look       at,       if you don't mind the shabby bits lurking just off-camera in the postcard       shots,       and otherwise avoid venturing out to the concrete panel housing units that scar       all formerly communist metropolises.              But what pleases the foreign eye in the Hungarian capital is often a Potemkin       grandeur, the projection of insecure nationalism, the architectural equivalent       of fin de siècle bling, dating from that all-too-brief half-century       (1867–1914)       when Hungary was not just a small-population serial loser of wars, but rather       the dual (if junior) monarch of imperial Austria's last Habsburg stand. For a       brief window, Budapest got to dress up as Vienna, and boy did it ever.       [...]       The thick roots of 21st century Hungarian nationalism are no mere tangential       offshoots from the allure of Orbánism; they anchor the whole enterprise.       Though       you will usually hear Orbán's GOP fan club enumerate exactly three of the       prime       minister's tangible accomplishments—he pays Hungarians to reproduce, he       limits       immigration, he tells Western elites to get bent—the hiding-in-plain-sight       attraction to the Fidesz leader is about politics far more than policy. And       those politics spring directly from a paranoid sense of historical grievance no       self-respecting American should want to experience, let alone emulate.              https://reason.com/2021/08/11/no-self-respecting-american-should       aspire-to-hungarian-style-nationalism/              Trump, an Orbán admirer and wannabe, and Carlson are not self-respecting       Americans. They are scum, and they should be hanged.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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