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   From: Skeeterweed@proton.me   
      
   In article , rc.@hendrie.con says...   
   >   
   > I'm pretty sure Hartung has said he's been in Usenet since about 1995. That   
   > means he has been trolling for well over 1/3 of his total life (he's 69 or   
   so),   
   > and for well over 1/2 of his adult life.   
   >   
   > Hartung is a troll. He implicitly admits it. He has *explicitly* admitted   
   that   
   > he knows no opponent here gives his opinions any weight. He says he derives   
   "an   
   > enjoyment of sharing ideas," but why is he interested in sharing ideas with   
   > people who think his ideas are stupid and bad, and who he claims not to be   
   > trying to persuade? What he really is trying to do is antagonize and provoke,   
   > i.e. trolling.   
   >   
   > Hartung claims to be a Christian. He is not a Christian. Antagonistic   
   > provocation is not a Christian thing to do. No matter what Hartung says, the   
   > part of Christ's teaching about loving one's fellow man is the important   
   part,   
   > and antagonistic provocation is not loving one's fellow man. Even if Hartung   
   > were right (he isn't) about the importance of the salvation bullshit   
   ("gettin'   
   > raht wif th' Lawwrd"), there is no denying that the love-thy-neighbor part is   
   > important, and Hartung *completely* disregards it. That means he's not a   
   Christian.   
   >   
   > Hartung is 69 years old, and has been desultorily fucking around trying to   
   get a   
   > university degree for decades. If he had spent even 20% of his trolling time   
   > more diligently pursuing a degree, he could have obtained a couple of them   
   by now.   
   >   
   > Exactly how have these 29 years of antagonistic provocation helped Hartung to   
   > become a better Lutheran minister? What has it contributed to his community?   
   > Does Hartung seriously think members of his church would be pleased to know   
   how   
   > he spends his time here? Oh, sure, a large majority of them probably agree   
   with   
   > Hartung's benighted and toxic political and social beliefs, but it's one   
   thing   
   > to hold those beliefs, and quite another to support inflicting them on   
   > others...and with *no* good-faith expectation of persuading the others that   
   the   
   > beliefs are good.   
   >   
   > Hartung has no capacity for self-reflection ? no ability to examine his life   
   and   
   > actions critically and honestly, and ask if they have been well spent. They   
   have   
   > not been well spent.   
   >   
   > Hartung is not a good person. Sanctimonious hypocrites never are.   
      
   Look what he has you doing. It's funny he can own you like Trump does.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)