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|    02 Jul 25 12:57:29    |
      [continued from previous message]              EVIDENCE, GAINING INSIGHT; I-CHING: H13 - FELLOWSHIP, COMPANIONSHIP,       CONCORDING PEOPLE, FELLOWSHIP WITH MEN, GATHERING MEN; TETRA: 53 -       ETERNITY (YUNG) AS MARGIN IDEA #343 = #207 - rèn (軔): *TO* *BRAKE* +       #136 - zhāo (昭): *DISPLAY CLEARLY* / *SUN'S* *BRIGHTNESS*: "In the first       (mathematical) class of antinomy, the falsity of the presupposition       consisted in the following: that something self-contradictory (namely,       appearance as a thing in itself) (eg: #136 - yán (顔): FACIAL APPEARANCE       / [#60, #76] | #207 - qù (去): TO ABANDON; TO GIVE UP / [#31, #45, #65,       #66]) would be represented as being unifiable in a concept. But       regarding the second, namely the dynamical, class of antinomy, the       falsity of the presupposition consists in this: that something that is       unifiable is represented as contradictory; consequently, while in the       first case both of the mutually opposing assertions were false, here on       the contrary the assertions, which are set in opposition to one another       through mere misunderstanding, can both be true.              Specifically, mathematical combination necessarily presupposes the       homogeneity of the things combined (in the concept of magnitude), but       dynamical connection does not require this at all. If it is a question       of the magnitude of something extended, all parts must be homogeneous       among themselves and with the whole; in contrast, in the connection of       cause and effect homogeneity can indeed be found, but is not necessary;       for the concept of causality (whereby through one thing, something       completely different from it is posited) at least does not require it.              If the objects of the sensible world were taken for things in       themselves, and the previously stated natural laws for laws of things in       themselves, contradiction would be inevitable. In the same way, if the       subject of freedom were represented, like the other objects, as a mere       appearance, contradiction could again not be avoided, for the same thing       would be simultaneously affirmed and denied of the same object in the       same sense. But if natural necessity is referred only to appearances and       freedom only to things in themselves, then no contradiction arises if       both kinds of causality are assumed or conceded equally, however       difficult or impossible it may be to make causality of the latter kind       conceivable.              Within appearance, every effect is an event, or something that happens       in time; the effect must, in accordance with the universal law of       nature, be preceded by a determination of the causality of its cause (a       state of the cause), from which the effect follows in accordance with a       constant law. But this determination of the cause to causality must also       be something that occurs or takes place; the cause must have begun to       act, for otherwise no sequence in time could be thought between it and       the effect. [IDEA #344] Both the effect and the causality of the cause       would have always existed. Therefore the determination of the cause to       act must also have arisen among the appearances, and so it must, like       its effect, be an event, which again must have its cause, and so on, and       hence natural necessity must be the condition in accordance with which       efficient causes are determined. Should, by contrast, freedom be a       property of certain causes of appearances, then that freedom must, in       relation to the appearances as events, be a faculty of starting those       events from itself (sponte - spontaneous), i.e., without the causality       of the cause itself having to begin, and hence without need for any       other ground to determine its beginning. But then the cause, as to its       causality, would not have to be subject to temporal determinations of       its state, i.e., would not have to be appearance at all, i.e., would       have to be taken for a thing in itself, and only the effects would have       to be taken for appearances.              NOTE: The idea of freedom has its place solely in the relation of the       *INTELLECTUAL* (des Intellektuellen), as cause, to the appearance, as       effect. Therefore we cannot bestow freedom upon matter, in consideration       of the unceasing activity by which it fills its space, even though this       activity occurs through an inner principle. We can just as little find       any concept of freedom to fit a purely intelligible being, e.g., God,       insofar as his action is immanent. For his action, although independent       of causes determining it from outside, nevertheless is determined in his       eternal reason, hence in the divine nature. Only if something should       begin through an action, hence the effect be found in the time series,       and so in the sensible world (e.g., the beginning of the world), does       the question arise of whether the causality of the cause must itself       also have a beginning, or whether the cause can originate an effect       without its causality itself having a beginning. In the first case the       concept of this causality is a concept of natural necessity, in the       second of freedom. From this the reader will see that, since I have       explained freedom as the faculty to begin an event by oneself, I have       exactly hit that concept which is the problem of metaphysics.              If this sort of influence of intelligible beings on appearances can be       thought without contradiction, then natural necessity will indeed attach       to every connection of cause and effect in the sensible world, and yet       that cause which is itself not an appearance (though it underlies       appearance) will still be entitled to freedom, and therefore nature and       freedom will be attributable without contradiction to the very same       thing, but in different respects, in the one case as appearance, in the       other as a thing in itself. We have in us a faculty that not only stands       in connection with its subjectively determining grounds, which are the       natural causes of its [IDEA #345] actions – and thus far is the faculty       of a being which itself belongs to appearances – but that also is       related to objective grounds that are mere ideas, insofar as these ideas       can determine this faculty, a connection that is expressed by ought.              This faculty is called reason, and insofar as we are considering a being       (the human being) solely as regards this objectively determinable       reason, this being cannot be considered as a being of the senses;       rather, the aforesaid property is the property of a thing in itself, and       the possibility of that property – namely, how the ought, which has       never yet happened, can determine the activity of this being and can be       the cause of actions whose effect is an appearance in the sensible world       – we cannot comprehend at all. Yet the causality of reason with respect       to effects in the sensible world would nonetheless be freedom, insofar       as objective grounds, which are themselves ideas, are taken to be       determining with respect to that causality. For the action of that       causality would in that case not depend on any subjective, hence also       not on any temporal conditions, and would therefore also not depend on       the natural law that serves to determine those conditions, because       grounds of reason provide the rule for actions universally, from       principles, without influence from the circumstances of time or place.              What I adduce here counts only as an example, for intelligibility, and       does not belong necessarily to our question, which must be decided from       mere concepts independently of properties that we find in the actual world.              I can now say without contradiction: all actions of rational beings,              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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