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|    Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (10/21)    |
|    03 Jul 25 10:44:44    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>> - SYNCRETIC PROGRESSION (#208 - EVALUATE / EXPRESS + #65 - INNER       >>>> (內)) is also a vEVENT grounding relative to temporality which is       >>>> requisite for consciousness--appreciate I am making quite the       >>>> statement as postulate for further informal research.       >>>>       >>>> #67 #54 #47       >>>> #70 #68 #48       >>>> #03 #05 #07       >>>>       >>>> #1092 = [#364 - ENQUIRY, #312 - CONTRADICTION, #416 (#405 + #9 -       >>>> BRANCHING OUT) - ORTHOLOGY: #143 - ONTIC GROUNDING + #273 -       >>>> SYNCRETIC PROGRESSION (#208 - EVALUATE / EXPRESS + #65 - INNER (內))]       >>>>       >>>> IMMANUEL KANT PROLEGOMENA (1783) COMMENTARY ON SECTION #53 -       >>>> INCREASING EVIDENCE, GAINING INSIGHT; I-CHING: H13 - FELLOWSHIP,       >>>> COMPANIONSHIP, CONCORDING PEOPLE, FELLOWSHIP WITH MEN, GATHERING       >>>> MEN; TETRA: 53 - ETERNITY (YUNG) AS MARGIN IDEA #343 = #207 - rèn       >>>> (軔): *TO* *BRAKE* + #136 - zhāo (昭): *DISPLAY CLEARLY* / *SUN'S*       >>>> *BRIGHTNESS*: "In the first (mathematical) class of antinomy, the       >>>> falsity of the presupposition consisted in the following: that       >>>> something self- contradictory (namely, appearance as a thing in       >>>> itself) (eg: #136 - yán (顔): FACIAL APPEARANCE / [#60, #76] | #207       >>>> - qù (去): TO ABANDON; TO GIVE UP / [#31, #45, #65, #66]) would be       >>>> represented as being unifiable in a concept. But regarding the       >>>> second, namely the dynamical, class of antinomy, the falsity of the       >>>> presupposition consists in this: that something that is unifiable is       >>>> represented as contradictory; consequently, while in the first case       >>>> both of the mutually opposing assertions were false, here on the       >>>> contrary the assertions, which are set in opposition to one another       >>>> through mere misunderstanding, can both be true.       >>>>       >>>> Specifically, mathematical combination necessarily presupposes the       >>>> homogeneity of the things combined (in the concept of magnitude),       >>>> but dynamical connection does not require this at all. If it is a       >>>> question of the magnitude of something extended, all parts must be       >>>> homogeneous among themselves and with the whole; in contrast, in the       >>>> connection of cause and effect homogeneity can indeed be found, but       >>>> is not necessary; for the concept of causality (whereby through one       >>>> thing, something completely different from it is posited) at least       >>>> does not require it.       >>>>       >>>> If the objects of the sensible world were taken for things in       >>>> themselves, and the previously stated natural laws for laws of       >>>> things in themselves, contradiction would be inevitable. In the same       >>>> way, if the subject of freedom were represented, like the other       >>>> objects, as a mere appearance, contradiction could again not be       >>>> avoided, for the same thing would be simultaneously affirmed and       >>>> denied of the same object in the same sense. But if natural       >>>> necessity is referred only to appearances and freedom only to things       >>>> in themselves, then no contradiction arises if both kinds of       >>>> causality are assumed or conceded equally, however difficult or       >>>> impossible it may be to make causality of the latter kind conceivable.       >>>>       >>>> Within appearance, every effect is an event, or something that       >>>> happens in time; the effect must, in accordance with the universal       >>>> law of nature, be preceded by a determination of the causality of       >>>> its cause (a state of the cause), from which the effect follows in       >>>> accordance with a constant law. But this determination of the cause       >>>> to causality must also be something that occurs or takes place; the       >>>> cause must have begun to act, for otherwise no sequence in time       >>>> could be thought between it and the effect. [IDEA #344] Both the       >>>> effect and the causality of the cause would have always existed.       >>>> Therefore the determination of the cause to act must also have       >>>> arisen among the appearances, and so it must, like its effect, be an       >>>> event, which again must have its cause, and so on, and hence natural       >>>> necessity must be the condition in accordance with which efficient       >>>> causes are determined. Should, by contrast, freedom be a property of       >>>> certain causes of appearances, then that freedom must, in relation       >>>> to the appearances as events, be a faculty of starting those events       >>>> from itself (sponte - spontaneous), i.e., without the causality of       >>>> the cause itself having to begin, and hence without need for any       >>>> other ground to determine its beginning. But then the cause, as to       >>>> its causality, would not have to be subject to temporal       >>>> determinations of its state, i.e., would not have to be appearance       >>>> at all, i.e., would have to be taken for a thing in itself, and only       >>>> the effects would have to be taken for appearances.       >>>>       >>>> NOTE: The idea of freedom has its place solely in the relation of       >>>> the *INTELLECTUAL* (des Intellektuellen), as cause, to the       >>>> appearance, as effect. Therefore we cannot bestow freedom upon       >>>> matter, in consideration of the unceasing activity by which it fills       >>>> its space, even though this activity occurs through an inner       >>>> principle. We can just as little find any concept of freedom to fit       >>>> a purely intelligible being, e.g., God, insofar as his action is       >>>> immanent. For his action, although independent of causes determining       >>>> it from outside, nevertheless is determined in his eternal reason,       >>>> hence in the divine nature. Only if something should begin through       >>>> an action, hence the effect be found in the time series, and so in       >>>> the sensible world (e.g., the beginning of the world), does the       >>>> question arise of whether the causality of the cause must itself       >>>> also have a beginning, or whether the cause can originate an effect       >>>> without its causality itself having a beginning. In the first case       >>>> the concept of this causality is a concept of natural necessity, in       >>>> the second of freedom. From this the reader will see that, since I       >>>> have explained freedom as the faculty to begin an event by oneself,       >>>> I have exactly hit that concept which is the problem of metaphysics.       >>>>       >>>> If this sort of influence of intelligible beings on appearances can       >>>> be thought without contradiction, then natural necessity will indeed       >>>> attach to every connection of cause and effect in the sensible       >>>> world, and yet that cause which is itself not an appearance (though       >>>> it underlies appearance) will still be entitled to freedom, and       >>>> therefore nature and freedom will be attributable without       >>>> contradiction to the very same thing, but in different respects, in       >>>> the one case as appearance, in the other as a thing in itself. We       >>>> have in us a faculty that not only stands in connection with its       >>>> subjectively determining grounds, which are the natural causes of       >>>> its [IDEA #345] actions – and thus far is the faculty of a being       >>>> which itself belongs to appearances – but that also is related to       >>>> objective grounds that are mere ideas, insofar as these ideas can       >>>> determine this faculty, a connection that is expressed by ought.       >>>>       >>>> This faculty is called reason, and insofar as we are considering a       >>>> being (the human being) solely as regards this objectively       >>>> determinable reason, this being cannot be considered as a being of       >>>> the senses; rather, the aforesaid property is the property of a              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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