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   dolf to dolf   
   Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (11/21)   
   03 Jul 25 10:44:44   
   
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   >>>> thing in itself, and the possibility of that property – namely, how   
   >>>> the ought, which has never yet happened, can determine the activity   
   >>>> of this being and can be the cause of actions whose effect is an   
   >>>> appearance in the sensible world – we cannot comprehend at all. Yet   
   >>>> the causality of reason with respect to effects in the sensible   
   >>>> world would nonetheless be freedom, insofar as objective grounds,   
   >>>> which are themselves ideas, are taken to be determining with respect   
   >>>> to that causality. For the action of that causality would in that   
   >>>> case not depend on any subjective, hence also not on any temporal   
   >>>> conditions, and would therefore also not depend on the natural law   
   >>>> that serves to determine those conditions, because grounds of reason   
   >>>> provide the rule for actions universally, from principles, without   
   >>>> influence from the circumstances of time or place.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What I adduce here counts only as an example, for intelligibility,   
   >>>> and does not belong necessarily to our question, which must be   
   >>>> decided from mere concepts independently of properties that we find   
   >>>> in the actual world.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I can now say without contradiction: all actions of rational beings,   
   >>>> insofar as they are appearances (are encountered in some experience   
   >>>> or other), are subject to natural necessity; but the very same   
   >>>> actions, with respect only to the rational subject and its faculty   
   >>>> of acting in accordance with bare reason, are free. What, then, is   
   >>>> required for natural necessity? Nothing more than the   
   >>>> determinability of every event in the sensible world according to   
   >>>> constant laws, and therefore a relation to a cause within   
   >>>> appearance; whereby the underlying thing in itself and its causality   
   >>>> remain unknown. But I say: the law of nature remains, whether the   
   >>>> rational being be a cause of effects in the sensible world through   
   >>>> reason and hence through freedom, or whether that being does not   
   >>>> determine such effects through rational grounds. For if the first is   
   >>>> the case, the action takes place according to maxims whose effect   
   >>>> within appearance will always conform to constant laws; if the   
   >>>> second is the case, and the action does not take [IDEA #346] place   
   >>>> according to principles of reason, then it is subject to the   
   >>>> empirical laws of sensibility, and in both cases the effects are   
   >>>> connected according to constant laws; but we require nothing more   
   >>>> for natural necessity, and indeed know nothing more of it. In the   
   >>>> first case, however, reason is the cause of these natural laws and   
   >>>> is therefore free, in the second case the effects flow according to   
   >>>> mere natural laws of sensibility, because reason exercises no   
   >>>> influence on them; but, because of this, reason is not itself   
   >>>> determined by sensibility (which is impossible), and it is therefore   
   >>>> also free in this case. Therefore freedom does not impede the   
   >>>> natural law of appearances, any more than this law interferes with   
   >>>> the freedom of the practical use of reason, a use that stands in   
   >>>> connection with things in themselves as determining grounds." [pages   
   >>>> 93-97]   
   >>>>   
   >>>> DOLF: "How is the notion of a civil society related to the inherent   
   >>>> human disposition of animus / anima and does such dynamic suggest   
   >>>> there is an ontic #22 - jié (結): *FORMATIONAL* (circumscribed as   
   >>>> bounding) #135 - níng (凝): *CONGEALING* / [#56, #79] concept of   
   >>>> facilitated arbitration as #174 - CYBERNETIC SYSTEMIC /   
   >>>> ANTHROPOMORPHIC PRINCIPLE which when disordered possesses an   
   >>>> attenuated #152 / #174 - yí (疑): *DEFICIENCY* / [#29, #61, #62,   
   >>>> #22] that may in a chronic ontological state be regarded as either   
   >>>> delinquency or reprobation?"   
   >>>>   
   >   
   >   
   > CAN REFUSAL OF COMMUNION BY IRISH CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP PELL ON BOER WAR   
   > MEMORIAL DAY / PENTECOST SUNDAY 31 MAY 1998 BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE   
   > INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT?   
   >   
   > Instances of the most serious international crimes, such as war crimes,   
   > crimes of aggression, genocide and crime against humanity (eg: RECLAIM   
   > THE #1827 - EUCHARIST / PENTECOST FROM    
    - SWASTIKA OBSTRUCTION /   
   > BABYLONIAN [#314 - mágos (G3097): *WISE* *MEN* / #335 - Kasday (H3779):   
   > CHALDEAN / #87 - BABYLONIAN KING (circa 721 BC) as [#2 - FULL CIRCLE   
   > (周), #30 - BOLD RESOLUTION (毅), #1 - CENTRE (中), #4 - BARRIER (閑),   
   > #50 - VASTNESS / WASTING (唐)] being ANTI-STATISM ARTIFICE as   
   > UNCONSTITUTIONAL: SECTION II: UNALIENABLE RIGHTS TRANSFERENCE PROTOCOL ]   
   > PERSECUTION OF JEWISH - CHRISTIANS AS SUBSTANTIATED CLAIM TO BELIEF #100   
   > + 40 AM as 3860 BCE + 20 x (293 x 365.2423 TROPICAL YEARS | 294 x 364 |   
   > 6J) + 1 (NO 0 CE)  = 2001 CE (NEW MOON 20 MARCH 1996 + 5 x 364 + 182 =   
   > 12 SEPTEMBER 2001 + 182 = NEW MOON 13 / 14 MARCH 2002), can be brought   
   > before the International Criminal Court, a permanent international   
   > tribunal. It was established by the ROME STATUTE adopted 17 JULY 1998.   
   >   
   > On 11 APRIL 2002, ten countries ratified the statute at the same time at   
   > a special ceremony held at the United Nations headquarters in New York   
   > City,[21] bringing the total number of signatories to sixty, which was   
   > the minimum number required to bring the statute into force, as defined   
   > in Article 126. The treaty entered into force on 1 July 2002; the ICC   
   > can only prosecute crimes committed (vis a vis in support of the   
   > EUCHARIST / PENTECOST FROM    
    - SWASTIKA OBSTRUCTION as ANTI-STATISM   
   > impetus HIJACKING ANZAC CENTENNIAL 2018 BY MARTIN TANZER, ROSS JACKSON -   
   > RETURNED SERVICES LEAGUE / DARREN CHESTER / WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCI   
   > ANTI-SEMITISM / VISCERAL RACIAL HATRED AS PERSECUTION) on or after that   
   > date. and entered into force  JULY 2002.   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > [IMAGE SOURCE: Victorian Honour Roll of Women (2011) Inspirational women   
   > from all walks of life]   
   >   
   > SYNAPSE QUOTIENT FOR CONSIDERATION IN MAKING AN ACCUSATION OF CONTEMN   
   > (WHITE COLONIAL IMPERIALIST / HISTORICAL ANTI-STATISM REVISIONIST AS NON   
   > DIFFERENTIATED CHRISTO-FASCISM EXCEPTING BY HAUGHTY SELF-ENTITLEMENT)   
   > AGAINST DOCTOR DIANE SISELY VEOC (1994-2004): Given that the CENTRAL   
   > PREMISE to this SAPIENT UTILITARIAN / TEMPORAL DYNAMIC is the   
   > mathematical meta-descriptive dialectic as idea template (AS OUR   
   > INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TO WHICH DOCTOR SISELY HAS NEVER CONFORMED) to the   
   > AMERICAN DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE 4 JULY 1776 and BILL OF RIGHTS 15   
   > DECEMBER 1791 which frames #87 - UNALIENABLE RIGHTS that are also   
   > implicit within QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT dated 29 OCTOBER 1900   
   > being principles upon which the respective REPUBLIC / COMMONWEALTH were   
   > established.   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [#74]   
   >>>> [#14, #17]   
   >>>> [#3, #11, #18, #32, #34, #49, #54, #60, #66, #67, #73, #76, #78]   
   >>>> [#23, #26, #27, #31, #34, #38, #44, #67]   
   >>>> [#5, #6, #17, #39, #57, #77]   
   >>>> [#37, #47, #78]   
   >>>> [#12, #67]   
   >>>> [#68]   
   >>>> [#13, #15, #27, #32, #49, #65, #71, #78]   
   >>>>   
   >>>> COGITO: #493 / IDEA: #1876 = [#74 - CLOSURE (䦯, #74 = [#74]), #14 -   
   >>>> PENETRATION (銳, #31 = [#14, #17]), #78 - ON THE VERGE (將, #621 =   
   >>>> [#3, #11, #18, #32, #34, #49, #54, #60, #66, #67, #73, #76, #78]),   
   >>>> #27 - DUTIES (事, #290 = [#23, #26, #27, #31, #34, #38, #44, #67]),   
      
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